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And here we go

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Ha, I knew that this thread would provide me the link I was looking for, and I was betting you’d be the guy to post it, WH. Thanks.

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It would be very interesting if dead people could enforce their wishes upon their heirs.

You get to decide where your stuff goes (to a point). You don’t get to decide what they do with it.

It’s up to his wife Paris, not George, as to what happens with his stuff after he’s dead. The Dead Hand exerts little force upon the realm of the living - unless it’s North of the Wall.

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So, this aired last night. This isn’t your typical rehash-the-previous-seasons special, as it’s all pretty much 14 minutes of season 4 footage, so SPOILERS and HOLY CRAP at the end.

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There aren’t a ton of spoilers and they don’t really spill anything specific, but that last shot is pretty cool.

— Alan

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The Westeros “rich list”: http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/richlist.jpg
This is a fun read, I love how they estimate some of the character’s net worth (like the Tyrells. Cornwall x 4!).

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I’m making my way through The Wire, and who should appear in season 3 but a young Petyr Baelish (Aidan Gillen) as a corrupt (?) councilman.

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I believe that’s the biggest role he’s known for before GoT. I was so excited when I heard the news that an actor from my fav tv show was given a big role in the adaptation of GoT, but to be honest I think he does a much better job in the Wire.

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He was also the main bad guy in Shanghai Knights. :)

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And one of the main characters in the Queer as Folk series.

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The original, British Queer as Folk.

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Trailer #2

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The Season 3 Blu Rays are out tomorrow!

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Today actually! Mine should be here shortly!

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Finished Seasons 1-3 with my 17-yr-old daughter tonight, my second time through and her first.

When her mom (who is also in love with the show) discovered a few weeks ago that we were watching it together (better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission situation) she protested at first, but her main complaints were about nudity and sex, elements which I don’t feel stand out especially in this show – not any more than other shows these days, at any rate – and the idea of a father and his daughter watching such scenes together was her biggest issue. But my kid is well seasoned, and she didn’t even flinch during those scenes. She’s mature enough now to handle it and we have a system that works: we don’t look at each other or interact in any way when a TV or movie scene gets sexy, and it all works out.

And the violence, well she and I have watched lots of shows and movies that had more violence. Supernatural, for instance (which we love) could be said to be even darker, more violent and more gory at times. Really, the most challenging aspects of GoT for my daughter were the Theon torture scenes. And those she was ready for, because I’d watched GoT before and I’d given her a synopsis, and we’d agreed on a plan. She saw just enough to understand who Ramsay Snow was and what sort of trickery he was up to and didn’t have to witness much or any torture, and we skipped through most of that material. (I also explained to her that it’s generally considered to be one of the weaker parts of the show and book series.) She said, as I’d anticipated, that the hardest part for her was feeling sad for the victim, which rings true for me, with torture scenes. She was also prepped for the Red Wedding scene and missed the gory details, thanks to her Shield of Fingers (no skipping) and didn’t lose a sense of the plot and story changes there.

We enjoy the same favorite character arcs/interplays: Arya and the Hound, Jamie and Brienne, Daenerys and everyone around her, Jon Snow with various characters, Tyrion with various characters. And it was a proud moment for me when she detected that Maester Pycelle, fairly early on, was not nearly as week and feeble as he wanted others to think he was.

We finished it up with the two trailers linked in this thread, and that cemented her love for the show, although she was already lamenting the long wait that was in store for her. I wish I’d started watching with her a few weeks later, because April 6 can’t come soon enough. We’ll probably have to start True Detectives next.

Edit: Added some positives, TD.

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Thanks for that barstein, interesting post!

I guess at 17, I’d be less worried about the sex scenes (kids are easily exposed to much more explicit scenes these days, probably at a much earlier age) and more about the violence and gore, but if you can pre-warn her so she is prepared, that helps - she can choose whether to consume it or not.

As far the ‘watching sex scenes with your dad’ bit, I guess at some stage you need to begin treating your children like adults. 17, bordering adulthood, seems like a good age for that, so no point introducing or reinforcing hang-ups of any sort, I guess.

It’s also an age where it is probably really good to have something to bond over and share together (the show in general, not the sex bits specifically, obviously), rather than the typical late teen parent angst. Looking back, I certainly wish I had established the relationships I now have with my parents at an earlier age, rather than my mid-late 20’s.

And at least the ‘long wait’ ain’t actually all that long if she just finished off the series!

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You nailed it. Kids are usually more desensitized to sex and gore than parents realize or want to accept right from the beginning, and in a way you could argue that this isn’t really all that much different than it was, say, in the 1980’s. (In fact, I think that’s been a fairly well-known thing for some time.) So if you’re a parent and you want to experience complicated material like this with your kid so that you can discuss it and learn/grow from it as a family unit, you may as well just dive in now and start dealing with it. With my own daughter, whenever we have hit thresholds where she felt like something was a bit too overwhelming, we would simply stop and switch to something tamer, or go and play a board game instead, or something else, and then later maybe come back.

As for the sex stuff, sure, there were times during her 12-16 years when it was a bigger issue, but I always tried to err on the side of risk, figuring that her own comfort level would be the thing to look out for. Whenever she seemed to be reacting, I’d immediately make the call to switch to something tamer and/or completely different. All in all, the strategy and tactics I’ve been using have worked out really, really well and I couldn’t be happier.

Really appreciate the positive sentiment, sharaleo, because for parents like me there’s no rule book and opinions like yours tend to hold a lot of sway.

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I guess at 17, I’d be less worried about the sex scenes (kids are easily exposed to much more explicit scenes these days, probably at a much earlier age)

While you are probably right about some I don’t know that’s true for all. Where would kids see those more explicit scenes. HBO? Cinemax late night stuff? They are to young to solo the movie theaters.

I guess I think we expect our kids grow up to fast now a days, and that isn’t always true or a good thing. I know not letting them grow up isn’t a good thing. I heard a guy on the radio last week say that at the local police academy they had actually had mothers demand the right to sit in with sons for interviews. Crazy.

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Um. The Internet? Are we assuming kids don’t have the basic ability to use Google?

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I am so old I forgot the obvious. True, there is no sex like the sex available on the internet.