Game of Thrones (HBO)

Balasarius · 2014-02-24T23:14:03.000Z

barstein:

Finished Seasons 1-3 with my 17-yr-old daughter tonight, my second time through and her first.

When her mom (who is also in love with the show) discovered a few weeks ago that we were watching it together (better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission situation) she protested at first, but her main complaints were about nudity and sex, elements which I don’t feel stand out especially in this show – not any more than other shows these days, at any rate – and the idea of a father and his daughter watching such scenes together was her biggest issue. But my kid is well seasoned, and she didn’t even flinch during those scenes. She’s mature enough now to handle it and we have a system that works: we don’t look at each other or interact in any way when a TV or movie scene gets sexy, and it all works out.

I was watching it with my 13-yr-old daughter. She’s very mature, of course. She’s liked the series so much she’s taken to reading the novels.

But yeah. There were some awkward moments… Loras going down on Renly… The two whores having sex while Baelish prattles on about nothing consequential…

Woolen_Horde · 2014-03-09T18:11:55.000Z

Here’s the trailer airing before the True Detective finale.

http://youtu.be/xIASaUUwklk

Ummmm. yes please.

Mr_Zero · 2014-03-10T00:01:37.000Z

Woolen Horde:

Here’s the trailer airing before the True Detective finale.

http://youtu.be/xIASaUUwklk

Ummmm. yes please.

From the few seconds I’ve seen in the trailers, the guy they got for Oberyn Martell looks great. Excited to see that plot unfold.

Razgon · 2014-03-10T00:18:48.000Z

So - when did they begin to batmanize the voices of the actors? Renly surely didn’t sound that gravelley last season?

Alan_Dunkin · 2014-03-10T00:41:21.000Z

No he didn’t, because he was already dead last season.

— Alan

Razgon · 2014-03-10T00:53:32.000Z

Alan Dunkin:

No he didn’t, because he was already dead last season.

— Alan

Dammit - I knew something was wrong with what I wrote. Know I have to find out who that is! To the batcave!

Edit: Its Stannis of course…sorry about that.

Edit2: I’m sounding grumpy - I’m not, the show looks awesome and I can’t wait. I was just surprised at the Batman voices.

Alan_Dunkin · 2014-03-10T15:17:06.000Z

Stephen Dillane (the actor, Stannis) just sounds like that, and has been since his intro in season two. In John Adams he has that exact same, gruff voice. It’s pretty much how he talks.

— Alan

John_Reynolds · 2014-03-10T17:29:57.000Z

The Titan of Braavos makes its appearance, which is. . .interesting.

Alan_Dunkin · 2014-03-12T01:03:51.000Z

Weiss & Benioff recently revealed that they intend for the series to go seven seasons.

— Alan

Tin_Wisdom · 2014-03-12T05:16:16.000Z

That’s… smart, due to the typical actor’s contracts and audience attention-span… but it does tend to imply that we’ll get a severely curtailed version of the Ice & Fire story. If they even plan to finish the story in the show; I guess they could do a weird ending with Dany preparing to embark her ships and Jon Snow having beat back a wave of White Walkers or something.

SlainteMhath · 2014-03-12T07:15:53.000Z

This is Season 4 coming up, and we’re pretty much right in the middle of events from Storm of Swords. Even assuming they skip a lot of stuff from Feast and Dance, I just don’t see how they can wrap up the story in only 4 more 10 episode seasons (including this one) and maintain the level of depth and quality they have shown thus far.

I mean, with Feast and Dance telling the same story over the same time period just from different perspectives, I can see how it might be easier to make that into a linear story for television, and thus cover the majority of both books in Seasons 5 and 6 (assuming we get the rest of Swords and some bits of Feast and Dance here in Season 4). But that only leaves you one, perhaps one and a half, season(s) to finish out a story that is supposed to span two more massive novels. The only way seven seasons works is if they abbreviate everything starting now, then create their own much shorter conclusion based on whatever information Martin has passed to them about how he plans to end the book series.

Telefrog · 2014-03-12T07:34:21.000Z

The whole thing is just going to end with some kid in a hospital ward looking into a snowglobe.

SlainteMhath · 2014-03-12T07:39:59.000Z

Telefrog:

The whole thing is just going to end with some kid in a hospital ward looking into a snowglobe.

Or Jon snow lying in some woods somewhere face up, slowly freezing to death while Ghost lies by his side, and as he looks up into the sky a dragon flies by slowly overhead. Jon smiles and everything fades to black…

GAME OF THRONES

RickH · 2014-03-12T11:50:37.000Z

Slainte Mhath:

But that only leaves you one, perhaps one and a half, season(s) to finish out a story that is supposed to span two more massive novels. The only way seven seasons works is if they abbreviate everything starting now, then create their own much shorter conclusion based on whatever information Martin has passed to them about how he plans to end the book series.

I was hoping that Martin would finish the books before the TV series outpaced him, but that’s looking less and less likely. It’s Scott Pilgrim all over again.

olaf · 2014-03-12T20:31:54.000Z

RickH:

I was hoping that Martin would finish the books before the TV series outpaced him, but that’s looking less and less likely. It’s Scott Pilgrim all over again.

Lol…no chance of that. I would say its 50/50 he gets a next book out before the series can catch up to the 5 that are out.

Also, the HBO series has to go more than 7 seasons unless they just go their own direction or end without wrapping things up.

Rightbug · 2014-03-13T10:23:29.000Z

olaf:

Also, the HBO series has to go more than 7 seasons unless they just go their own direction or end without wrapping things up.

You have to figure that Weiss and Benioff woke up one morning and realized that they could conceivably spend the next 12 years of their professional career working on the same project if they kept on at the same pace. I can’t say I blame them for wanting to put a definite cap on it but I’d being lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed.

Steel_Wind · 2014-03-14T05:16:57.000Z

The contracts with the actors contemplate 7 seasons. The ensemble cast is too large to renegotiate. I am sure they would prefer 8 seasons – or even nine. It’s not going to happen.

We will be getting the final three seasons with a view to the highlights only of GRRM’s planned conclusion - and a mercifully more brief condensation of AFFC/ADwD.

Seasons 6 and 7 will be a literally unprecedented approach to making a film adaptation. Adapting what, exactly?

I’m sure the internet will not debate the results of it at all. :)

Mr_Zero · 2014-03-14T09:43:45.000Z

For GRRM, getting outpaced by HBO is, in a sense, a coup. You get to watch a talented team of writers take a crack at what you’re about to do; that’ll be great feedback. Of course he’ll be disappointed he didn’t get there first, but I bet he’ll work faster once someone else has established the route.

It also gives him even more ammo to use against the reader in his ongoing campaign of misdirection. It’d be cool if he fed the HBO guys an alternate universe beat sheet, and then juked on some major point. I wonder if Weiss & Benioff would be upset, if their adaptation was a loose one because the originator made it that way.

Teiman · 2014-03-14T09:59:32.000Z

Mr. Zero:

For GRRM, getting outpaced by HBO is, in a sense, a coup. You get to watch a talented team of writers take a crack at what you’re about to do; that’ll be great feedback. Of course he’ll be disappointed he didn’t get there first, but I bet he’ll work faster once someone else has established the route.

It also gives him even more ammo to use against the reader in his ongoing campaign of misdirection. It’d be cool if he fed the HBO guys an alternate universe beat sheet, and then juked on some major point. I wonder if Weiss & Benioff would be upset, if their adaptation was a loose one because the originator made it that way.

Too meta.

GRRM can invite all producer of the serie to a isle, and give all of them different weapons, with a note “Only if theres one survivor I will send a rescue team”.

divedivedive · 2014-03-14T11:16:00.000Z

Yeah I gather from interviews that Martin has the story beats plotted out, at least in outline. It seems like Feast and Dance took a while to write because he decided to split out the timelines. Just curious how much he will reveal to the show runners if they should outpace him, to let the series play out. Personally, as long as it’s good TV I don’t much care. And so far it’s been good TV.