Wow, already? What are they going to do the rest of the season? (I figured that last scene in book 3 with Tyrion would be a good place for the finale.) Guess I’d better start on this book 4 here…

The last scene in book 3 with Tyrion will end his arc this season, but not everyone’s arc is on the same pace. There will be several events from AFFC, and maybe a few from ADwD this season as well. It all depends on the character.

Bran never got north of the wall until the end of Book 3 - which he did last season, so with Bran we are in to Book 5 (ADwD - as Bran does not appear in Book 4 at all). Brienne never leaves King’s Landing until AFFC (Book 4). Theon never goes to Moat Cailin (and Roose Bolton never gets north of it) until Book 5. Arya’s arc reaches its “Episode 9” of Book 3 in the tavern fight that was fought last week, in Episode 1.

The showrunners told us last season that as of Season 3, they were no longer strictly keeping all arcs and events in order. It happened last year, it will happen far more this year – and so on.

Jon, Stannis and Tyrion and those around them are mostly on track. Dany is a question mark and there may be a few ADwD events in her arc this season (we’ll see), but not too many.

I think we all know what the final scene of this season will be, however.

What a terrific job the make up artists did with Joffrey. His eyes were pointing in two directions!

A few days after last season ended, I was visiting one of my work’s remote sites where I knew many of the people. While walking by the manager’s office, one of the medical assistants who I would often talk to and whom is a head shorter than me and about 40 pounds lighter grabbed me arm and rather violently pulled me into the manager’s office’s closet. She had quite a grip on my arms and her eyes were wider than I’d ever seen as she insistently begged, “Please tell me Joffrey gets what he deserves! Please tell me he dies horribly!!!” I just started laughing…she was REALLY serious! I just had to tell her to wait for Season 4.

Kind of glad I don’t work there anymore…might get mugged again after tonight’s episode!

It is definitely a good news/bad news situation for having reading the books. Hawaii being 6 hours behind the east coast it is tough to avoid spoilers. When my twitter feed started to go crazy with, “ya thank god that happened” and such I immediately knew that yup tonight there will be a wedding. Personally I was hoping for a sexier wedding dress… :).

The Spider enjoyed himself.

After The Hound’s shout out to The Wire last week, this week we get “Stormbringer!” Fun “spot the reference” game going this season.

Who was the archer girl with Bolton? Miranda? Who is that?

A Facebook-friend I barely knew from college, who I haven’t been in touch with at all since, popped up out of nowhere in my Facebook feed and totally spoiled last night’s episode. I’d been so proud in the past of how well managed my social media feeds are, and I guess I’m still doing pretty well to have things spoiled as rarely as I do without just totally avoiding the internet. But man, what a jerk. Reading this thread cautiously is way safer than just being on the internet in general.

Now, why would Joffrey wear a dress?

I read the books a year ago and what bothered me in the books and now in the show is how Tyrion handled the situation. The books give the impression that the deaths of Rob Stark, Balon Greyjoy (I think that’s the Iron King’s name), and Joffrey were set in motion due to Melissandra’s spell/ritual sacrifice. Of course, that would be extremely difficult to pull on in the show. Man…just thinking about all the things that are coming up makes me giddy!

I don’t know–I haven’t finished reading the available books yet. For those who have, is there a scene like that in the books?

The hunting concept is there, but I don’t remember a female accomplice. Just Ramsay and his hounds.

She is new.

So. What is going on with Shae? This is a pretty big departure from the books.

Pretty sure, according to the unofficial death rules for ASOIAF books, the Hound is alive.

I guess I might have to finally admit that I don’t care for this show, and it’s not really the show’s fault but the material it comes from. My first hint should have been that I put down book three half way through because I just couldn’t muster the interest to read that novel ahead of anything else on my backlog.

I’ve said this before but I guess the story feels monotonous to me. Season 3 felt like a story of being on the lam just repeated over and over with a lot of the characters. When Rob Stark finally announces “Let’s take Casterly Rock,” I felt like I was finally getting to something that would shake up constant rut this story finds itself in. But nope, that got dealt with to bring it back into the same ole same ole.

Last night has talk of the war being over. Again I think this might shake things up. See what it’s like when you have to take down the establishment and not just all play for the throne. Sansa’s on the inside, Tyrion hates his nephew and could be the undercover dude who chooses his wife over his family. Or who knows what else? My point is it finally felt like it might be different. But with the purple wedding, I guess it’s back to “it’s up for grabs again.”

And I have trouble getting into the latest “I’m searching for an army” with the blonde dragon mother. All the energy spent investing in the horse people just to seemingly jettison them in favor of the slave army. I don’t know, again, maybe that’s about to change, but she’s been doing basically the exact same thing since the very first episode (except there it was her brother).

Maybe it all turns out different and I admit I haven’t read the books, but with the chatter of Tyrion’s storyline coming to a close soon, the show is running out of interesting characters. Oh well, I have a feeling I’ll probably stream these as they come up here and there, but it feels a little aimless all the time.

On a side note, I feel like the magic makes the setting feel pretty jumbled. I know it’s probably not any more or less jumbled than a D&D setting, but with Lord of the Rings, I felt like the magic that existed was the magic for the world. It helped me buy that the world works a certain way and here’s the magic behind it. With Ice and Fire, there’s chicks that are dragon MILFs, petty witches, red blood witches, druidic kids who can commune with dire wolves/ravens/trees, aryan zombies. It feels like a dumpster of high fantasy magic tropes. Having read the first two books and some of the third, I never really got the sense that there was some harmony that brought these forces together. And I admit that I may have missed it entirely.

Myranda, which caused some speculation that it’s Myranda Royce of the Vale. Apparently, they just liked the first name.

That’s the belief. I tend to think the Hound won’t die this season because they seem hellbent on setting up Qybern and his relationship with Cersei. And we know where that leads…

I’m worried I’ll feel the same way with books 4 and 5. Some people say they are a little slow.

On a related note, does GRRM know how many books the series will be? I just wonder if eventually we’ll hit some sort of conclusion. There’s still the risk t won’t be a satisfying one.

He’s been saying 7 for a while now. 6 is the one he’s working on now.

I don’t think this story is for you. Looking at this part of what you wrote, I don’t understand what story you’ve been watching. Sansa’s on the inside? Of what, lol. She’s on the inside of a sort of prison, not being able to leave, that’s it. Tyrion being undercover for who and to what end? Against his family!?! His rich, powerful family? Don’t you think he would have skipped town long ago with his gf if that was an option in his mind?

This story is about turmoil. Dropping a pebble in a pool of water and watching how the ripples spread and affect the entire pool. Tyrion slapped Joffrey once upon a time, look at the ripple effect that had later on Tyrion.