Game of Thrones (HBO)

jg93 · 2015-03-19T06:13:40.000Z

Not bad for the product of incest :P

JonRowe · 2015-03-20T08:13:20.000Z

Shockmesane:

I’m 95% certain Jon’s S5 arc will end the same as it does in Dance.

Expect memes, reaction gifs and plenty more come late May.

Tin_Wisdom · 2015-03-23T04:11:52.000Z

An article that quotes Benioff on the show outpacing the books:

"Benioff":

Luckily, we’ve been talking about this with George for a long time, ever since we saw this could happen, and we know where things are heading. And so we’ll eventually, basically, meet up at pretty much the same place where George is going; there might be a few deviations along the route, but we’re heading towards the same destination. I kind of wish that there were some things we didn’t have to spoil, but we’re kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. The show must go on… and that’s what we’re going to do.

The article also speculates on the possibility of the sixth book coming out before season 6 based on comments his publisher made back in January. Basically, he’s skipping the 'con season to try and crank out the book before Spring 2016… but there is zero chance he’d get book 7 out before the show beats him to the punch.

Alan_Dunkin · 2015-03-23T09:45:42.000Z

When the recent crop of articles regarding HBO “wanting the show to go on forever” and 10+ seasons and all that, I was surprised this time around that they didn’t bring up possibly doing the prequels (Egg & Dunk stories) which came up about a year or so ago before Season 4 aired when the same worries were being spouted again. This time around it wasn’t mentioned at all.

— Alan

Woolen_Horde · 2015-03-23T16:04:48.000Z

It’ll be really interesting to see how this plays out. D&D want to do 7, but HBO is going to throw lots and lots of money at them to go longer. It’s their biggest hit ever, and a monster hit in foreign markets. (I bet that next year they premiere in Madrid; the show is more popular in Spain than in any other country. They could shut Madrid down.)

I assume they do a Jackson/Potter/Twilight where they split the events of the would-be final book into two seasons. So 8 seasons, max.

rowe33 · 2015-03-23T16:08:23.000Z

HBO just needs to go full tilt on Steven Erikson now - would be crazy to see a high budget series of those books!

John_Reynolds · 2015-03-23T18:18:11.000Z

The real gem in that article is that D&D are basically saying they’ll stay faithful to GRRM’s overall story. I wasn’t expecting that with the increasing # of deviations we’ve been seeing with each new season.

olaf · 2015-03-23T20:20:45.000Z

The show is canon now. I doubt book 6 comes out before season 6 and I am 100% sure season 7 happens before book 7.

I do think the show will go longer than 7 seasons, but less than 10.

wahoo · 2015-03-24T07:25:35.000Z

They said characters will die on show before the books. On next season I believe. I wonder how this will affect book sales?

Telefrog · 2015-03-24T07:46:00.000Z

olaf:

The show is canon now.

This. I love the books, but let’s face it. This is the way the majority of people consume this story and it no longer really matters what Martin does.

gurugeorge · 2015-03-24T10:02:46.000Z

It’s interesting to think that Martin will be writing the characters with visual awareness of the actors going forward.

Scuzz · 2015-03-24T12:24:40.000Z

Woolen Horde:

It’ll be really interesting to see how this plays out. D&D want to do 7, but HBO is going to throw lots and lots of money at them to go longer. It’s their biggest hit ever, and a monster hit in foreign markets. (I bet that next year they premiere in Madrid; the show is more popular in Spain than in any other country. They could shut Madrid down.)

I assume they do a Jackson/Potter/Twilight where they split the events of the would-be final book into two seasons. So 8 seasons, max.

Since the series will end before the final book even comes out I doubt they will be “splitting” the final book into two seasons. They will merely proceed at the pace they feel the story and ratings deserve.

Can anyone remember when a book series was ever overtaken by a video version before it was finished. I have to believe GRRM will be influenced by whatever path the series follows.

Telefrog · 2015-03-24T12:30:02.000Z

The closest thing I can think of is Thomas Harris and the Hannibal books. He specifically wrote Hannibal Rising because Dino De Laurentiis told him that if he didn’t do it, the studio would go ahead an do it first since they had the movie rights on the character.

Alan_Dunkin · 2015-03-24T13:06:15.000Z

There’s a slightly similar situation that happened with Bernard Cornwell; he had finished the 11-book Sharpe series and ITV were making tele-movies out of them. During this multi-year process he started writing more Sharpe books (Sharpe’s Battle being the first, which was then incorporated into the series as it was being filmed) and the more he wrote, the vision of Richard Sharpe he had in his mind became less and less and Sean Bean came out more and more.

— Alan

divedivedive · 2015-03-24T13:19:15.000Z

How did that affect the books? Did Sharpe die at the end of each of them?

Woolen_Horde · 2015-03-24T14:06:36.000Z

Pogue Mahone:

How did that affect the books? Did Sharpe die at the end of each of them?

Sounds like a Sean Bean vehicle, for sure!

Yo_Rudy · 2015-03-24T14:39:20.000Z

wahoo:

They said characters will die on show before the books. On next season I believe. I wonder how this will affect book sales?

Characters have already died on the show before the books, namely

dead character

Jojen Reed

Scuzz · 2015-03-24T15:04:53.000Z

Alan Dunkin:

There’s a slightly similar situation that happened with Bernard Cornwell; he had finished the 11-book Sharpe series and ITV were making tele-movies out of them. During this multi-year process he started writing more Sharpe books (Sharpe’s Battle being the first, which was then incorporated into the series as it was being filmed) and the more he wrote, the vision of Richard Sharpe he had in his mind became less and less and Sean Bean came out more and more.

— Alan

I remember seeing the first 5-6 episodes and thought they had quit making them. Then years later discovered there were more. I have almost every Sharpe book, but I consider only the original 11 and the first India novel to be vital.

Alan_Dunkin · 2015-03-24T15:06:32.000Z

Woolen Horde:

Sounds like a Sean Bean vehicle, for sure!

Haha, no, Sean Bean doesn’t ever die (comes close a lot I guess). I don’t know if it really changed anything major, other than get Cornwell to write more Sharpe books to fill some of the gaps. Since all but one of the novels written after the initial 11 were set either before or during the initial 11, it’d be pretty hard to kill off anybody. And the telemovies featured more “characters” then the novels, which were lost along the way basically.

— Alan

Woolen_Horde · 2015-03-24T16:55:14.000Z

Scuzz:

Since the series will end before the final book even comes out I doubt they will be “splitting” the final book into two seasons. They will merely proceed at the pace they feel the story and ratings deserve.

It’s why I said would-be