1664

Timely, as in Paul Newman?

1665

More like “living in the mechanisms of a giant clock”.

To recap, this “timely”/clock thing referred to another role an actor had (Hudsucker) who was also in this film in addition to a billion others.

1666

Actors have the Actors Studio method to get into character; directors may as well have a Directors Studio method - QT and PTA were surely just rehearsing to prepare filming the coke scenes in Pulp Fiction and Boogie Nights! l had never heard of these two women though, and always thought PTA was probably spending too much time dissecting Robert Altman filmography to allow himself to have a a proper sentimental life.

For some reason, The Muppet Movie has to be by far the movie that is the most frequently mentioned in this game!

l have the actor we’re looking for (as dtolman, l have a soft spot for The Hudsucker Proxy)- l don’t know if l’m allowed to say his name though. Wait… is this a somehow collaborative game or not? We’ve never considered the question.

Pardon my ignorance, but does lndian refers to an NFL/Baseball/Hockey franchise? l don’t know anything about these sports, but l reckon there’s a team named the Redskins or something. Could this future lndian be someone like OJ Simpson, who had an acting career? (or maybe that’s just Peter Sellers prior to The Party…)

1667

:O Fiona Apple has that whole New Yorker feature to give a good idea who she is. Briefly, she sprang onto the alternative music scene and international acclaim as a waifish chanteuse in the late '90s. “Criminal” is one of her most familiar songs. She dated PTA around the time he made Magnolia. She still makes creatively interesting music, and just dropped a new album in the last few months.

Maya Rudolph is an accomplished comedian and, to a lesser extent, musician. She did a very successful stint in Saturday Night Live, and parlayed her appearance on the SNL 40th anniversary special into a brief show with Martin Short. This year she made history by being nominated for two Emmys for Guest Actress in a Comedy, for a return to SNL as future Vice President Kamala Harris and for playing the Judge in The Good Place. But I digress.

Not in this case.

1668
  • From before to Ellis Island and Harlem
1669

I’ve been trying to make Gangs of New York fit, but Daniel Day Lewis was an Indian before he became Dutch van der Linde, umm Bill the Butcher, who I remember performing one magic trick at least.

1670

That was my first idea too, but it doesn’t work with the fourth clue. Plus, l think Americans are generally reluctant calling Native Americans ‘Indians’, so l figure that may rather be an Indian from India, but l may be wrong.

Also, l think we may be looking for a movie set in the Bronx.

1671

Interesting guess, but no, not Gangs of New York.

1672

I think there is a joke in there about New Jack City and derailment, but it has been many years since I saw that. Is there a train in that movie?I

1673

The thing about Maya Rudolph boggles me. I’ve only seen her in The Good Place, where she apparently thinks that moving her arms around a lot is comedy. Every scene she’s in is negative funny.

1674

I guess she’s the judge of that.

1675
  • There’s men in black chasing an alien here, but with a much smaller budget than anything starring the Fresh Prince.
1676

Repo Man?

1677

Afraid not, we did that one back in May (though May does seem like a decade ago). Think East Coast, not Repo Man’s West Coast.

1678
  • A future Indian does two magic tricks
  • An immigrant to New York gets the job done
  • When it came to finding out a director, a writer, an editor, an actor, and a producer for this movie, it was a pretty easy sayle for each one.
  • One of the character actors in this has been in just about everything, including very tiny roles in Hudsucker Proxy and New Jack City, where the plots would have been hopelessly derailed without his input.
  • COVID toes
  • It’s kind of an escaped slave narrative
  • From before to Ellis Island and Harlem
  • There’s men in black chasing an alien here, but with a much smaller budget than anything starring the Fresh Prince.

Here’s another casting clue. I’ve got one additional clue after that, then… kaput.

  • The actor who portrayed the titular character in this low-budget sci-fi film also had a role in another sci-fi flick seven or eight years later. His last line in that blockbuster: “I don’t know how much longer I can hold this.”
1679

Ok, so l have at least that movie, and the character. l don’t know the name of the actor though.
Also, l am completely sure l’ve never seen the movie we’re looking for. So l figured, maybe l could give all the info l have so far, in the hope that will help someone?

@Djscman, do you agree? Your call. Maybe it could also set a precedent; after a certain amount of clues, for example after the 8th or 9th clue, the players are authorized to share all the information they have. l don’t know what you guys think.

1680

I think it’s fun to spark a discussion! I was thinking of the 20:20 frame game where the person presenting the clues takes a loss after there are no more frames available.

1681

Usually, we’re doing more or less the same here, l think: after 10 clues, we have to choose another movie. l will forever be the first loser of the history of this game, so l for sure remember! ln general, l personally try to make them more and more obvious towards the end to avid that eventually (that’s why, in the case of Magnolia, l would have opted for ‘frog rain’ for the tenth and last clue), but that’s only my choice, no rules at all here.

Alright, so here is what l know:

  1. The actor is Bill Cobs. He is the clock man in Hudsucker Proxy.
  2. l don’t know the name of this actor, but the movie is Terminator 2, and the character is the main researcher at Skynet, who helps Arnie and co. Terminator 2 was released in 1991, so we’re looking for a mid-80s movie, probably 1983 or 1984.

Also, l don’t know if it is any helpful, but since both actors are black, and the movie is set in NYC, we may be looking for a movie set in a black neighborhood, or with many black characters?

1682

Yeah - I know the lead, I know when it must have come out, and the genre… and I’ve definitely never seen this movie. So thinking of movies that could fit the bill that I’m only aware of from trailers and blockbuster video cassettes I perused eons ago…

Is it… C.H.U.D?

1683

Escape from New York?