Ghost Recon Wildlands - Ghosts say no to drugs

The combat robots are bullet proof? I want my money back!

Ok, I concede that I might have phrased that a bit awkwardly. Overall I was just trying to say that I prefer the “simpler” Wildlands gameplay to the Breakpoint gameplay, thats all.

It really depends. As far as gameplay goes, once you turn off gear leveling it is as good as Wildlands. Nowadays you can even turn off those bullet sponge drones outside of story mission.

But the you get the story to deal with, which supposedly is the skeleton that connects the game. And that skeleton is effing terrible IMO.

Wildlands has a hint of depth behind the drug war. All the cutscenes were narrated by a very cynical person, half winking at the audience. What I can read between the lines is that the drug war basically is a symptom of western insatiable appetite for coke. If Don Jr. el. at. don’t like coke so much there wouldn’t be drug cartel. It is simple economics. And because they like their coke too much to actually want to do anything meaningful, and so they choose to treat the symptom and not the cause by sending 4 elite soldier bros as a token gesture. And when the four dude-bros succeed beyond all expectations and took down the cartel, they basically undo the whole thing by granting immunity to the boss dude.

And the hint of sophistication in Breakpoint’s story? Elon Musk is a dick? We knew that already.

Thanks everyone. I’ll have to think about it. There are enough other games on sale at some pretty great prices such that I may end up with a Steam-like backlog on my new Series X, so maybe it makes sense to wait a year on Breakpoint and see if it drops further in price, or if they announce a new Ghost Recon.

I am in the “Breakpoint is significantly better than Wildlands” camp, actually. Only played it with immersive mode though. I enjoyed its more RPGish structure and didn’t mind all those dialogues and story additions. Its “Elon Musk” figure is misguided, but not some evil caricature (that kinda falls to Jon Bernthal’s character). It was more immersive and less…gamey than Wildlands, which I prefer, and Nomad is much more of an actual person (although completely different one than in Wildlands).

Also, the DLC for Breakpoint, the one with Sam Fisher, was great. Kinda showed how open world Splinter Cell could work.

I’m digging Wildlands, which is like Just Cause with no parachute. You zoom around in helicopters and look for weird shit to explore or activities to do. It’s UbiGame, Military Flavor, but there’s an enjoyable goofiness to your skill set (and your ability to bomb down a mountain on a dirtbike, or drive an armored truck UP a mountain). It’s good for me as an Explorer. I can tell after 20 hours it’ll wear thin, but it’s good fun for now, and getting new tricks and toys in a steady drip is pretty great .

Fallen Ghosts DLC currently free for 20th Ghost Recon anniversary. This was quite good from what I remember.

Fallen Ghosts downloaded. Thanks for the heads up @Alistair.

I picked up the Narco Road DLC having uninstalled Forza Horizon 5. Maybe zipping round Bolivia will be more fun than zipping round Mexico. And it is! Not only can you do the smactus thing, there’s a game attached as well. And the map… is not as terrible as FH5 :)

Old school (ie dumb) checkpointing though.

Roll on a new GR.

The free Fallen Ghosts (which I still haven’t played) got me to finally start playing Wildlands. I’ve been really enjoying it. I have killed every boss, El Sueno twice to get the good ending, and have 100% of the weapon cases, attachments, and story items. Moved into Tier Mode after hitting Experience Level 30 somewhere along the way, and am currently up/down to Tier 15.

Still having fun grinding towards Tier 1 & farming convoys for resources to level up damage for my favorite weapons. My character skills are fully maxed-out & I have every bonus medal, which turn out to make little difference when you are shot at high Tier levels.

Since each Tier increases incoming damage, and leveling your weapons in Tier Mode increases their damage, the game becomes like a very large version of the original Rainbow Six PC games. If you don’t plan your way into a base, spotting and shooting enemies first, you will die. I miss games with instant death gunfights, so I’m still having a blast (or dying in one, the AI frequently uses grenades).

Bonus fun: calling in a mortar strike gives me happy flashbacks to Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction (released January 2005, but still holding the title of Best Player Artillery Support Evar).

Bonus Un-fun: the AA missile launchers still regenerate too quickly. Playing solo, I believe it is impossible to kill all six of the launchers around El Sueno’s Mausoleum at once. As soon as a destroyed one is out of sight for a minute or so, a new one pops in to replace it. This creates some no-fly zones in the game. One or two launchers I can handle (missiles can be dodged if you are in a Little Bird), but 4+ means I’m driving in.

For posterity’s sake, I am sorry to report that the Predator mission was removed in December 2020. Ubisoft didn’t want to renew the license for an old game.

Now a question for you all. With the benefit of hindsight, and keeping in mind I’m nursing some seriously old hardware (i5-3570K & Z77 motherboard from 2012, and a GTX 770 I bought in 2014, but at least I have 16GB of memory), what old open world game should I dig up next? Division 1/2? Did Breakpoint get patched into greatness? Fallout: New Vegas? Far Cry ___? I did play Just Cause 1 & maybe 2. Hunter: Call of the Wild? I’ve got a lot of stuff in my Steam library, though I know a lot of Ubisoft stuff is exclusive to other online stores.

Breakpoint is certainly worth a look, although it probably is demanding. It’s on deep discount at Ubi right now. They have a 2 hour refund window I think (?) and you’ll be able to check performance within that time if you want… Likewise for the Divisions.

The games you list are all pretty different, so what are you in the mood for? Call of the Wild is free now I think, on Epic.

Thanks for the tips, I’ll look at Ubi and see what’s on sale.

I actually have Hunter on Steam already, it was more of a joke suggestion. The excitement & focus of actual hunting don’t translate to a game very well. Of course, neither do the packing, hiking, long drives, miserable wind/cold, field dressing wild game, and boredom of sitting silently in a blind or tree stand for hours & hours. Overall, I’ll take playing the game, even though it doesn’t fill up the freezer (Butcher Box is a good substitute for that, though).

If you really like it but the hardware creaks and groans I think Ubistuff is streamable these days too.

I wish I liked the gameplay better in Wildlands. I really enjoyed the little I explored of virtual Bolivia, but just the moment gameplay of taking out villages with my team just felt very mediocre.

I kind of wish I could explore Bolivia as Rico, grapple-parachuting around all over the place, blowing up red things with explosives.

I felt the opposite, with Just Cause being too silly and not very tight in terms of controls, but I get your point. The GR formula can be a bit repetitive.

For some reason they made having a parachute cost a skill point. For the task given to your character, that’s like starting without pants, either.

Helicopters aren’t as good as a grapple, but they are plentiful & quickly become the best mode of transport. Do the the Rebel side missions that upgrade Vehicle Dropoff. Once you hit level 3 of that (seven successful upgrade missions) you can get an unarmed helicopter dropped nearby at any time.

Playing in Tier Mode you gain Prestige Points, which let you buy Prestige Crates. I got super-lucky & got the Unidad Helicopter from a Prestige Crate (it’s about a 1:500 chance). It is the very definition of overpowered, with homing missiles for you as pilot and a minigun on each side for your AI pals. Ubisoft will also be happy to sell you the same helicopter in a vehicle pack for $20-$25 (I don’t have a good grasp on how many game credits you get for a dollar).

Homing missiles are the bee’s knees for grinding Tier points at advanced Tier levels, but playing “Recon In Force: Gunship Edition” gets kind of boring. So I still redo missions for Tier points (you get 50% less each repeat, but they all reset when you reach the next Tier) & infiltrate bases to play instant-death Ghost Rainbow Recon Six.

I also got a Tractor from a Prestige Crate, so pretty far from a grapple or helicopter gunship in usefulness, but one of your teammates can sit on the back & shoot at stuff.

First person mod!

Gave it a try - it’s lot of fun. A few glitchy areas, but basic run and gun is now a fluid fps. Swimming is a bit broken and I think sync shot might not work, but it does what it says on the tin :)

Ubi need to offer this in the next one, and make it togglable of course.

That mod has been a hot topic in the Wildlands subreddit. Here’s a video on how to install it & discussion of the bugs it has (mostly lack of Sync Shot, some wonky aiming in certain situations, and your view being locked & mostly blocked when using vehicles). It looks much more suitable to multiplayer coop than solo, and I haven’t seen anyone using any of the rebel support in the videos yet:

I just finished getting the whole Exoskeleton in Ghost Mode (permadeath) last night, so I may give this a try next. Sync Shot and building up your Rebel support are critical to survival in Ghost Mode, but running around with this mod in a low difficulty mode looks like fun.

Rebel support was fine for me. Whether you can see out your vehicle depends what it is :) I tried one with steel bars over the windscreen which wasn’t great, but a helicopter, boat and motorbike were fine. Can’t remember if I tried a regular car. Installation’s trivial too - just replace 3 files.

Would really like the next gen GR title to include 1st and 3rd person. Seem slike they have to do something ‘more’ than the earlier gen games, and that’s an easy one to point to.

I haven’t played Wildlands (is it one of those games that they can turn off the servers and the game will go poof?), but as far as Just Cause games go, insert Denzel_MyMan.gif here