"Good Old Games"

ScottyA · 2010-02-04T11:57:09.000Z

antifood:

I used a fan patch for the GOG release of M&M6.

May I ask what fan patch? I’m going to make some time to play through this again after I’ve played a metric shit ton of Din’s Curse.

antifood · 2010-02-04T15:13:29.000Z

The Bird Flu:

May I ask what fan patch? I’m going to make some time to play through this again after I’ve played a metric shit ton of Din’s Curse.

This GOG thread should get you started.

EvilIdler · 2010-02-04T15:34:54.000Z

Redemption was cool once you added the right mods. I think most of the cool stuff is hard to find nowadays, but the World of Darkness mod (WoDMOD) nailed the pen & paper feel of combat (followed the rules and was realtime) and added a ton of stuff from the tabletop RPG. Of course that required groups of players (some mechanics have manual use, but at least the skills exist). The single-player is a fun Diablo-like game, and the scenery was great for its time. Although completely not in the spirit of the tabletop original, with the player carrying a portable blood bank ;)

Gordon_Bleu · 2010-02-05T06:20:32.000Z

Craig O:

I tried going back recently, but it wouldn’t run on 64-bit Vista.

I played Bloodlines on 64-bit Vista, so it’s definitely possible. I installed the unofficial patch (which includes the official patch now) plus a no-cd crack, and after fiddling with different compatibility mode settings, I got it to work.

Hopefully the people at gog will give us a “it just runs” version of the game.

red_guy · 2010-02-11T08:46:13.000Z

Gog cock teasing about something

Space Quest 4+5+6, and Phantasmagoria this week, for $10 each.

Steam has the whole SQ collection, albeit for twice as much, but you’ll probably be able to catch it in a sale at some point, too.

That’s great. I’ve always wanted to play Phantasmagoria, but been too lazy to install it because it comes on five CDs.

fuzzyslug · 2010-02-11T09:19:17.000Z

red guy:

That’s great. I’ve always wanted to play Phantasmagoria, but been too lazy to install it because it comes on five CDs.

As someone who played it through back in the day, make sure you want it. It was only ok back then (and the ending is terrible). I’m certain it hasn’t aged well.

dtolman · 2010-02-11T09:57:01.000Z

fuzzyslug:

As someone who played it through back in the day, make sure you want it. It was only ok back then (and the ending is terrible). I’m certain it hasn’t aged well.

So its not in the same class as the Gabriel Knight games?

I skipped it back in the day as I lacked a cd drive (!) on my mid 90’s machine, but was always curious…

ScottyA · 2010-02-11T10:12:12.000Z

So how does Space Quest 4,5, and 6 hold up? I’ve always wanted to play them ,didn’t have a PC at that time, and am in the mood for an adventure game. Are they playable without any knowledge of 1-3?

LesJarvis · 2010-02-11T10:15:16.000Z

Phantasmagoria has some memorable aspects, though they don’t have anything to do with the gameplay. It’s not as good as The Beast Within.

How well SQ 4, 5, and 6 hold up probably depends on how much nostalgia-driven fondness you have for old point and click adventure games. I can still enjoy them, but if you’re not a fan of the genre there’s a good chance they’ll leave you cold. No knowledge of the other games in the series is required to play them.

Latin_Rhythm · 2010-02-11T10:17:29.000Z

They’re playable, though a lot of 4 will be lost on you. I think the first 3 are better anyway, though a lot of people seem to think 4 is the peak of the series (they’re wrong!).

zengonzo · 2010-02-11T10:17:40.000Z

dtolman:

So its not in the same class as the Gabriel Knight games?

(Spoilers, by the way - if that qualifies here.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3hX0rbw1rA&feature=related

Dailymotion

Phantasmagoria game - Don Kills Adrienne - Video Dailymotion

This is towards the end of FMV horror game "Phantasmagoria" at Chapter 7 where Adrienne can die in many ways. This scene shows how Adrienne had to split. :D

LesJarvis · 2010-02-11T10:19:28.000Z

If all the Phantasmagoria FMVs are on youtube, and I’m going to guess that they are, you should save $6 and just watch them there.

divedivedive · 2010-02-11T10:19:55.000Z

dtolman:

So its not in the same class as the Gabriel Knight games?

I would say definitely not. Phantasmagoria are pretty cheesy B-movie level material, and I think Gabriel Knight aims a little higher. Now that’s not to say that Phantasmagoria isn’t worth playing necessarily, but be aware of what to expect.

TimJames · 2010-02-11T10:23:20.000Z

LesJarvis:

If all the Phantasmagoria FMVs are on youtube, and I’m going to guess that they are, you should save $6 and just watch them there.

I did this for a Let’s Play of the sequel. I don’t seem to like adventure games, so that was enough for me.

LesJarvis · 2010-02-11T10:29:09.000Z

Tim James:

I did this for a Let’s Play of the sequel. I don’t seem to like adventure games, so that was enough for me.

I tend to imagine that the scenes are more effective in context, but either way I have a hard time recommending Phantasmagoria as anything other than a historical curiosity. As a game, even an adventure game, there’s not a lot to it. On the other hand, there’s a built in hint system if you’re feeling too lazy to tab out to gamefaqs, and at least if you play the GOG version you don’t have to do all the disc swapping.

fuzzyslug · 2010-02-11T10:54:20.000Z

zengonzo:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1sch2_phantasmagoria-game-don-kills-adrie_videogames

I remember that one. Wasn’t that a fail state, so you got to see it over and over?

Craig_O · 2010-02-11T10:54:31.000Z

Brian Rubin:

It should, it works with the Steam version.

Does the Steam version work on x64?

fuzzyslug · 2010-02-11T10:54:43.000Z

dtolman:

So its not in the same class as the Gabriel Knight games?

I skipped it back in the day as I lacked a cd drive (!) on my mid 90’s machine, but was always curious…

Nope, it’s not even close.

dwolfe · 2010-02-11T12:31:04.000Z

Rock8man:

True story: That’s the only game I’ve ever played where the opening dungeon is a maze, and I couldn’t find my way out, even though I tried for a couple of hours. First I tried the right hand rule, keeping a pretend hand on the wall and always turning right when I could. Then I tried the left hand rule, always turning left. And neither worked. I know I must have just been missing some little exit to the maze somewhere, but it was infuriating not to be able to get out of the opening maze. FUCK Vampire: The Masquerade: The Redemption.

from hazy memory
That maze trick only works to be sure you find your way back to the beginning/starting point of a maze…if you start inside a maze, you are only guaranteed to find your own starting point again! I don’t recall any proofs that starting that method inside a maze can find an exit.

malkav11 · 2010-02-11T17:43:50.000Z

I watched an LP of Phantasmagoria. It’s dreadful. And not in a good way. Phantasmagoria 2 I recall being compared negatively to the first game but is far better. (LP, again.) Not up to Gabriel Knight standards even so.