"Good Old Games"

BrianRubin · 2010-11-19T11:36:00.000Z

Panzer General 2 is freaking fantastic, and it still holds up I think.

ryan · 2010-11-19T11:54:13.000Z

Rock8man:

Brian, I’m holding off on playing/buying Beyond Good and Evil because of the rumor that they are doing an HD remake for the PS3.

Good news for you! Ubisoft announced Beyond Good & Evil HD last September. It’s going to be released over Live Arcade and PS Network next year.

BrianRubin · 2010-11-19T11:58:30.000Z

Woohoo!

Inactiviste · 2010-11-19T12:14:39.000Z

Brian Rubin:

Panzer General 2 is freaking fantastic, and it still holds up I think.

Ok, sold… But now If I enter my credit card number, I might as well buy at least a few D&D games to go with it. Damn.

And I’m going yo buy an used Wii on monday.

Too many games, and life is so short…

Tony_M · 2010-11-20T05:52:21.000Z

I’ve started playing Temple of Elemental Evil. The Circle of Eight Patch looks great. Among the new (optional) quests is a new area you can explore at level 1. Its designed to replace the tedious fetch quests in the starting village with a small combat-based adventure that gives roughly the same rewards. Great idea.

Tony

peterb · 2010-11-20T13:07:37.000Z

Tony M:

I’ve started playing Temple of Elemental Evil. The Circle of Eight Patch looks great. Among the new (optional) quests is a new area you can explore at level 1. Its designed to replace the tedious fetch quests in the starting village with a small combat-based adventure that gives roughly the same rewards. Great idea.

Tony

I installed the Co8 patch but somehow missed this one. Where is it and how can i find it?

peterb · 2010-11-20T13:10:27.000Z

Brian Rubin:

Panzer General 2 is freaking fantastic, and it still holds up I think.

The only criticism I have of PG2 – and it’s a very minor one – is that it feels a bit “puzzly” compared to PG1. PG1 was more of a traditional wargame. PG2, while it used nearly the same mechanics, had these scenarios (e.g., Suomussalmi) where there was basically one way to win that assumed that you knew precisely on which hex you would be ambushed. So you’d play them once to get ambushed and once to actually win.

At least, that’s how it seemed to me. Lots of scenarios where winning ‘properly’ should require recon units, but where actually deploying those recon units wasn’t possible.

AustinArlitt · 2010-11-20T13:24:40.000Z

I already own half of the Ubisoft titles on sale this weekend, and I still want to just buy the whole package…

Tony_M · 2010-11-20T15:37:05.000Z

peterb:

I installed the Co8 patch but somehow missed this one. Where is it and how can i find it?

There are 2 versions of each Co8 patch, one has the initials NC for “New Content”. After you install it, when you get to the Co8 gamelauncher window you need to “Activate” the patch (its probably the same way you activated the non-NC patch).

Co8:

New content expansion 1 | Welkwood Bog | Available at the start of the game (Use it to avoid doing the Hommlet Fedex quests! Completing it will take you to roughly level 2.) Talk to Brother Smyth about “something different”.

New content expansion 2 | Hickory Branch | Available after you have 1. cleared the Moathouse, and 2. talked to Captain Renton about Welkwood Bog

New content expansion 3 | Arena of Heroes | Available after you have 1. been told of Nulb, and 2. talked to Kenter Nevets about Hickory Branch

New content expansion 4 | Moathouse Respawn | Available after you have 1. been told of the Temple of Elemental Evil, and 2. talked to the Master of the Arena in the Arena of Heroes

New content expansion 5 | Verbobonc | Available after you have 1. found out about the Temple factions (usually from one of the ToEE priests), and 2. talked to Kent about the Moathouse Respawn

At the moment I only plan to play expansion 1, because I don’t want to gain extra experience and end up too powerful for the main quest. I’m just using expansion 1 to replace the Hommlet fetch quests.

Tony

Sean_Tudor · 2010-11-20T15:51:14.000Z

Paul_cze:

For those wanting to buy it on steam - why? When you buy it on gog, you can put its shortcut into steam and then you have it in one place too, with steam overlay as well.

Please correct me if I am wrong but the Steam version is DRM free as well isn’t it? I am still supporting the developers as Steam is just another delivery platform. The devs still get their money regardless if you buy it from GoG, Steam, or Impulse.

What’s with all the anti-Steam sentiment that has started creeping onto these forums of late.

Paul_cze · 2010-11-20T15:55:33.000Z

Sean Tudor:

Please correct me if I am wrong but the Steam version is DRM free as well isn’t it? I am still supporting the developers as Steam is just another delivery platform. The devs still get their money regardless if you buy it from GoG, Steam, or Impulse.

Steam itself is kind of DRM. Also, when you buy on steam, Valve gets a cut. When you buy on GOG, Witcher’s creators get the full amount (since it is also CDProjekt).

Otagan · 2010-11-20T16:16:40.000Z

Proposal: put The Witcher EE on GOG. Then I can buy them both and not have The Witcher 2 look horribly out of place on my shelf all by itself.

Tony_M · 2010-11-20T20:20:42.000Z

I enjoyed the conversation that leads to the new Co8 content in Temple of Elemental Evil:

Me: No offense, but this seems like a boring town. Would you know where I can find some real action?

Brother Smythe: Action? What do you mean by that?

Me: I mean something more exciting than simply meddling in everyones personal affairs here.

Tony

Quitch · 2010-11-21T12:30:39.000Z

Paul_cze:

Steam itself is kind of DRM. Also, when you buy on steam, Valve gets a cut. When you buy on GOG, Witcher’s creators get the full amount (since it is also CDProjekt).

I suspect that’s not how their internal finances work, especially as it’s their sister company, not the same company.

Nithrakis · 2010-11-21T12:34:56.000Z

Quitch:

I suspect that’s not how their internal finances work, especially as it’s their sister company, not the same company.

A post on the official forums states that they will receive “practically 100% of your money” if you order via GOG so I’m assuming they get much more than they would via a Steam order.

Paul_cze · 2010-11-21T13:02:12.000Z

Quitch:

I suspect that’s not how their internal finances work, especially as it’s their sister company, not the same company.

Nithrakis:

A post on the official forums states that they will receive “practically 100% of your money” if you order via GOG so I’m assuming they get much more than they would via a Steam order.

Also, in that presentation they had about it, GoG’s guy said something like that you will be supporting CDP the most of you buy it on GoG.It’s pretty clear.

Quitch · 2010-11-21T13:03:30.000Z

Words like “supporting” are a million miles from clear, which is why they’re what people tend to employ.

Paul_cze · 2010-11-21T13:35:42.000Z

I really don’t know what is unclear to you about it. CDProjekt owns both gog.com and CDP Red studio.

Quitch · 2010-11-21T13:42:32.000Z

Because supporting doesn’t mean much of anything in financials. Giving 1p per copy is supporting.

I work for a company owned by another company (in fact I suspect almost all of us do), but being owned != shared financials, we get a budget.

triggercut · 2010-11-21T13:44:40.000Z

Quitch:

Because supporting doesn’t mean much of anything in financials. Giving 1p per copy is supporting.

I work for a company owned by another company (in fact I suspect almost all of us do), but being owned != shared financials, we get a budget.

Uh, yeah. Whatever.

If you’re implying that the folks who design the game will get MORE money from Steam than from their parent company, let me try to stop you from saying anything else even more patently ridiculous and just say “okay”.