"Good Old Games"

BrianRubin · 2011-02-24T05:11:30.000Z

Catshade:

Total Annihilation Kingdoms + Expansion

Oooohhh, never played this one, but always wanted to.

peterb · 2011-02-24T05:15:21.000Z

Creole Ned:

I do have a shiny new PC, yes! I’ve been doing that ‘revisiting old games with everything maxed out’ thing while also scratching a more recent RPG itch.

It turns out that Oblivion with the “Nehrim” mod is a better Gothic than all of Gothic 1, 2, and 3 combined.

Seriously.

Fenris99 · 2011-02-24T06:27:10.000Z

Catshade:

Total Annihilation Kingdoms + Expansion

Is this any good?

Durns · 2011-02-24T08:22:14.000Z

Oh wow I remember when TA-K first came out. Old man feeling in 3…2…1…

Fenris - it is good but unforgivingly, painfully difficult.

edit: from what I recall, the defensive towers were insanely overpowered.

Ben_Sones · 2011-02-24T08:24:03.000Z

Brian Rubin:

Oooohhh, never played this one, but always wanted to.

Don’t do it, man. I loved TA, but Kingdoms was an awful game.

BrianRubin · 2011-02-24T08:40:45.000Z

Ben Sones:

Don’t do it, man. I loved TA, but Kingdoms was an awful game.

Actually? The biggest reason I’d get it is for the soundtrack. ;)

Fenris99 · 2011-02-24T08:47:20.000Z

Durns:

Oh wow I remember when TA-K first came out. Old man feeling in 3…2…1…

Fenris - it is good but unforgivingly, painfully difficult.

edit: from what I recall, the defensive towers were insanely overpowered.

Haven’t you heard? Fenris doesn’t “do” difficult.

abrandt · 2011-02-24T12:39:24.000Z

I never gave TA:K much of a chance, but I remember enough to say don’t get it just because it has the Total Annihilation name.

JDSIDD · 2011-02-24T12:48:12.000Z

I don’t remember TA: K being overly difficult. It did some interesting things like force you to use land and air units together for visibility (the fog of war was kind of nasty). I do have vague memories of not liking it, or at least being unsatisfied at the time. I don’t recommend it.

Quitch · 2011-02-25T10:25:59.000Z

TAK is inferior to TA in pretty much every way.

Mark_Asher · 2011-02-25T10:41:31.000Z

I liked the streamlined harvesting in Kingdoms. One resource, mana or something like it, and all you did was plant a node on it. I like that approach to the harvest/build/attack games. You get to focus much more on building and attacking, yet the resource nodes still matter.

scharmers · 2011-02-25T10:45:10.000Z

peterb:

It turns out that Oblivion with the “Nehrim” mod is a better Gothic than all of Gothic 1, 2, and 3 combined.

Seriously.

Thumbs up on this post.

Enidigm · 2011-02-25T10:54:15.000Z

TA:Kingdoms was the best RTS game to mod. All unit values were nested in extremely easily edited text files. Even better, these values had no deeper hidden calls, so you could basically make it all up. For example, under the [ARMOR TYPE] catagory (i don’t remember the exact names) you could just write whatever you wanted, say LIGHT MEDIUM HEAVY, ect. Then go under the damage type categories and fill in the new armor type and the percent damage reduction, then go fill in the armor type on which ever units you wanted to edit.

This is important because TA:Kingdoms had, perhaps, the worst unit balance i’ve ever encountered in an RTS. By my tastes it’s almost unplayable in it’s default state.

Quitch · 2011-02-25T11:23:16.000Z

Well they did completely rebalance it in one of the late patches with CUT mode, which was less awful.

Disconnected · 2011-02-25T13:50:38.000Z

Alistair:

The Gothics were actually intended for consoles and only ended up on PC because they couldn’t make them work on the hardware of the time. I’m reasonably sure mouse was an afterthought for them.

Oh. Sorry, I had no idea.

Arbit · 2011-02-25T14:23:14.000Z

peterb:

It turns out that Oblivion with the “Nehrim” mod is a better Gothic than all of Gothic 1, 2, and 3 combined.

Seriously.

I can’t comment on the storyline of Nehrim, but I stopped playing after about 30 minutes because of the terrible Oblivion style combat.

Disconnected · 2011-02-25T14:40:09.000Z

Arbit:

I can’t comment on the storyline of Nehrim, but I stopped playing after about 30 minutes because of the terrible Oblivion style combat.

How in the world did you manage to play G1 & G2? Seriously, compared to combat in those two games, Oblivion’s is a slice of perfection sprinkled with fat little cherubs of gameplay joy.

Incendiary_Lemon · 2011-02-25T20:25:06.000Z

Combat in Gothic was very tactical and it genuinely rewarded clever play. You did have to adjust to the unusual control scheme though.

BrianRubin · 2011-02-25T20:35:21.000Z

Guys, quick question. What are y’all’s opinions of the Postal games? I’ve always had a hankering to try 'em, but never did.

Tony_M · 2011-02-25T22:57:50.000Z

I can’t imagine that the Postal games have aged gracefully, even if they were half worth playing when they new.