Grim Dawn - An ARPG from Crate (ex Iron Lore aka Titan Quest devs)

Devouring swarm proccing Twin Fangs is something that remains powerful and useful all through the game, due to the scaling on Twin Fangs. DS itself tends to fall off once mobs have a billion hit points, and really sucks in certain places (necro). When enemies are resistant to it, it really hits a brick wall. I have made many a vitality build, there are some really fun/powerful ones.

Depending on what your second class is, you can make builds that can face tank literally everything, including bosses, until pretty late in the game. Making me want to go start a new vitality character again.

Out of all the classes, Shaman is by far my favorite starting class. There are several builds that are just flat out OP as a starter, lightning being the other one. Which reminds me…I need to get back to my lightning/vitality hybrid…

Honestly the way to go with most characters early on is to slam points into whatever active skill and gear whatever regen you need to support it. The increased power is well worth it.

Spreading yourself too thin is a recipe for disaster in Grim Dawn.

Without a doubt. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve started a shaman because they’re awesome!

I just started playing the Reign Of Terror mod again…it’s so so good. It brings a smile to my face every time I play it. Probably my favorite mod in history, across all games.

I have never Modded Grim Dawn, I’m afraid to. There are still vanilla class combos/builds I haven’t tried yet. I just made my First Commando ever last night. Sword + Board + Fire = Awesome. Now I want a 2 handed build. I saw replies in this thread 3 days ago and fired up a new character. I didn’t even bother to read them FFS I just saw it and like a moth to a flame I was slumming in Burrwitch Estates almost instantly.

Must. Stay. Away.

This game has developed an extremely hermetic argot that ensures I will not understand basically any discussion of builds I find.

Really? The only weird stuff aside from skill names (which, I mean, c’mon) is the composite classnames (i.e. Shaman + Oathkeeper = Archon). Other than that, I honestly have no idea how you would play the game without knowing e.g. damage types.

So, you GD wonks, take a look at this, if you don’t mind, and explain a couple of things to me.

I assume the one point into Hellhound, say, is because he gets buffed up by other things like Storm Spirit and doesn’t need extra points in him directly, but what is going on with that single point in Dreeg’s Evil Eye?

That’s from an old version, you can tell that the skill tree is messed up.

I wonder if Dreeg’s Evil Eye also gets pet bonuses? It says you “Summon” Dreeg’s Evil Eye. I’ve never had a character use that beyond the early game when i decided I didn’t like it. But if the evil eye gets pet bonuses then that’s a lot of pet bonuses you’ve got on that character, including one on the belt that gives a chance of lightening striking nearby enemies.

You mean an old version of the game and the skill tree has changed enough to mess up an old grimtools build?

Yeah. You can’t take later skills without points in the earlier ones.

Grimtools encodes the build info using ids assigned to each skill, and those ids can and do shuffle with patches and changes to the trees.

Well crap.

I’m sure a few people like myself in this thread would be happy to critique any build you were to put together, though! Playing with builds in grimtools is half the fun :)

I usually start with a skill or two I want to build around, then search the devotion tree for that kind of damage and go from there.

Quoted for Truth.

That’s one of the main reasons I never could get into Path of Exile as much. No website where you can plan out your build. They had a website where you could plan half your build, by planning just the massive tree, but that tree didn’t have any of your skills. I know there’s some kind of tool out there, but you have to install it on your machine. So you can’t just go to a webpage at work and plan out another character, for instance, like you can with Grim Dawn.

Similarly I couldn’t really grasp how to plan out builds in Diablo 3, whereas with Diablo 2 I think I spent as many thousands of hours on the website Arreat Summit as I did within Diablo 2 itself.

Does that not offer what you’re looking for? Has a “Skills” tab with all the skill gems in the game.

Interesting. How does it work?

Here’s the skill tab:

I can’t figure out how to view skills on it.

Click + ADD GROUP then + Add Gem… at the bottom.

Hover over skill for tooltip.


Ok, wow, I’m impressed someone actually created such a website. It’s complicated, but to be fair, so is the game itself.