Grognard Wargamer Thread!

Navaronegun · 2018-10-12T18:21:47.533Z

Perky_Goth:

You can quote the post that you’re writing? That’s nonsense!

It is!

Ironsight · 2018-10-12T18:23:38.705Z

Navaronegun:

The code for the Battle of Kursk stuff I bought was exactly the same as the 2001 Tiller code. I’d refund it, but it isn’t a Steam product.

OK, then I guess they are just adding scenarios and improving graphics in the PzC Gold versions.

Navaronegun · 2018-10-12T18:28:08.589Z

Ironsight:

OK, then I guess they are just adding scenarios and improving graphics in the PzC Gold versions.

Yeah, I am sad to see Blackie passed. I used to back and forth with him via email. But the games are ossified and the code hasn’t really changed since I was doing stuff with them for Talonsoft when I was in Grad School. That’s 20 years. Clinton was President. AOL. Pre-911. “Fly” ?!?

CraigM · 2018-10-12T18:42:43.032Z

I have never seen that before. Hell, I even had that album in high school.

I haven’t listened to it in probably a dozen years or more.

Now I’m good for another dozen.

Navaronegun · 2018-10-12T18:43:35.958Z

CraigM:

I have never seen that before. Hell, I even had that album in high school.

I haven’t listened to it in probably a dozen years or more.

Now I’m good for another dozen.

It was as “1998” as I could get off the top of my head.

CraigM · 2018-10-12T18:52:35.810Z

If you wanted something 1998 that has not aged well? That definitely fits. There are albums from that year I still listen to, some I even listened to at the time!

That is not one of them.

Navaronegun · 2018-10-12T18:53:51.236Z

CraigM:

If you wanted something 1998 that has not aged well? That definitely fits. There are albums from that year I still listen to, some I even listened to at the time!

That is not one of them.

I almost went with this as it is soooo 90s, but it’s '93. :)

CraigM · 2018-10-12T19:07:56.578Z

So 90’s?

This would be my pick for ‘thing that is quintessentially ‘98’

Ironically one of my favorite albums of all time was also released in ‘98 and it getting a remaster, and a live concert series with John De Lancie as narrator.

cannedwombat · 2018-10-12T19:08:04.433Z

Off the rails: This is my most ‘98 album - Mezzanine by Massive Attack.

On the rails: Watched the video. The most cringeworthy thing is that interface. Programmers were paid by the icon.

TheWombat · 2018-10-12T19:56:52.378Z

CraigM:

If you wanted something 1998 that has not aged well? That definitely fits. There are albums from that year I still listen to, some I even listened to at the time!

That is not one of them.

I actually love that song, and the video. It’s message is still pertinent. Ok, aesthetically, it’s not quite Led Zeppelin, but…

Navaronegun · 2018-10-12T19:59:08.673Z

TheWombat:

it’s not quite Led Zeppelin, but

You do wanna slap that kid still though, huh?

TheWombat · 2018-10-12T20:00:43.950Z

Navaronegun:

You do wanna slap that kid still though, huh?

Well, yes, that’s the point, isn’t it?

CraigM · 2018-10-12T20:03:44.870Z

In the most 90’s way possible

Navaronegun · 2018-10-12T20:22:04.064Z

Heh.

Stuff released in '98 that I actually listened to regularly:

Not a big year for me music-wise.

CraigM · 2018-10-12T20:40:26.317Z

Its a weird year for me. Most of the stuff I listened to at, or near, that time came out in years flanking it. The only real exception being Smashing Pumpkins has one of their (lesser) albums that year.

But there are for me two stone cold classics, top 10 all time, and probably both top 5 all time albums from that year, plus a third marginal top 25 EP. But I’m not sure that 96,97 and 99 aren’t better.

However for games, 1998 is a damn goldmine. Some games that absolutely stand up today, in spite of difficult interfaces.

PC games generally less so. PC wargames like Tiller’s? Especially so.

Ironsight · 2018-10-12T22:46:32.095Z

Navaronegun:

The code for the Battle of Kursk stuff I bought was exactly the same as the 2001 Tiller code. I’d refund it, but it isn’t a Steam product.

Just to clarify, you didn’t buy Kursk Gold if you already owned Kursk did you? Owners of the original games get the Gold version for free if HPS has your purchase on file.

Navaronegun · 2018-10-12T22:49:25.466Z

Ironsight:

Just to clarify, you didn’t buy Kursk Gold if you already owned Kursk did you? Owners of the original games get the Gold version for free if HPS has your purchase on file.

No, I hadn’t owned it. That was my “give Tiller a chance, you gave up on him 10 years ago, but who knows” purchase a few months ago when he came up last. Thanks for thinking of me though, Iron.

KristiGaines · 2018-10-13T00:56:11.916Z

So …uh … I would rarely post here cause you guys are serious. BUT… I saw “Sudden Strike:North Africa” dropped today and I wondered: Are there no turn based squad/platon level WWII games that are a little like old steel panthers? Because it is clear the game I mentioned above is just a real time start game with a wwii wrap.

Navaronegun · 2018-10-13T00:58:25.357Z

KristiGaines:

Are there no turn based squad/platon level WWII games that are a little like old steel panthers? Because it is clear the game I mentioned above is just a real time start game with a wwii wrap.

See this:

Grognard Wargamer Thread! Games

Ah, that off-hand remark on the Garriot’s game thread didn’t escape your steely eyes. They have been working on it for quite some time. The first time I am aware Joel talked about this publicly was here, a couple years back. At the moment, we’re working on both War in the East 2 and Steel Tigers, and I’m equally excited by both. War in the East 2 is a continuation of the progress we’ve made with the WitEand WitW system, using the map we created of all of Europe that was used in WitW. Exact…

KristiGaines · 2018-10-13T01:00:50.255Z

I know you may not believe this PM but I spent a ton of time with old Steel panthers. Be nice to see a North Africa campaign done right turn based.