MikeJ
1633
About China not building divisions, the latest patch notes (https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-ironclad-1-6-2-beta-patch-checksum-b3b2.1160282/page-24) have:
- The Chinese AI will no longer try to reserve rifles for the showdown with the hated enemy no.1 (Nationalists/Communists) while at war with hated enemy no.2 (Japan)
jpinard
1634
OK plan thus far before game start (will update with bold as I come to new decisions that I make):
Focus Tree:
2. Finish the Five Year Plan
3. Armament Effort
4. Stalin Constitution
5. Positive Heroism
6. Progress Cult
7. Socialist Science
8. Extra Research Slot
9. Socialist Realism
10. Improve Rail Network
12. Aviation Cult
13. Transpolar Flight
14. Great Purge
15. Rehabbed Military
16. Military Rehab
17. An Ocean Going Navy
18. Found the PCDI
19. Anti-Fascist Diplomacy
20. Improve Stalin Line
21. Lessons of War
22. Research City Experiment
23. Diversify the Program
24. Closed City Network
25. Switch to Construction Engineering Focus (or should I do a different continuous focus at this point)?
Research Order:
- Construction I
- Basic Machine Tools
- Electronic Mechanical Engineering
- Mechanical Computing
- Concentrated Industry
- Excavation I
- Radio
- PM M1910
- BT7 LightTank
- Construction II
- Concentrated Industry II
- Anti-Tank Gun
- Improved Machine Tools
- Excavation II
- Interwar Artillery
- T-32 Medium Tank
- Improved Equipment Conversion
- Maintenance Company I
- Logistics Company
- Fuel Refining II
- Land Doctrine - Superior Firepower
22. DP & RM-38
23. Computing Machine
24. Improved Infantry Equipment I
25. Air Doctrine - Operational Integrity
Military Law & Govt:
1. War Economy
2. Captain of Industry
3. Stalingrad Tractor Factory
4. Free Trade ??? (skipped as unsure)
5. Tula Arms Factory
6. Okmo Heavy Tank
7. MiG Design
8. Rokossovsky
Civ Factory:
Will make 40 Civ factories after trade available. Then switch to make 5 Docks (to increase convoy production), then switch to military factories.
Military Factories:
- 11 to infantry
- 3 Support
- 3 Towed Artillery
- 3 Light Tank
- 3 Motorized
- 5 Fighter
Docks:
- 4 to convoys (increase to 7 when new docks are built)
- 1 to Destroyers to general reserve
- 1 to Subs to general reserve
Other:
- Blocking trade ports to Black Sea, Baltic Sea, and Bering Sea.
Trickling in 200/month infantry & 10 units/month biplanes to Spain
- Sent volunteer troops to China
- Began lend-lease of 100/month infantry and 10/month planes to China.
meeper
1635
As the USSR, I’d set your entire dockyard production to convoys and otherwise just let it be. You’ll have several hundred by the outbreak of war and so long as you didn’t declare early on Japan, you can just forbid the naval zones in the west and let supplies come in via Vladivostok – well out of reach of U-Boots.
I’d also consider moving the purge up in your list to immediately after the extra research slot. If you get unlucky with Germany declaring an early war before you’re able to complete Lessons of War during your conflict with Finland, you’ll still be hip-deep in serious penalties as panzers roll across Ukraine.
jpinard
1636
Oh wow that’s cool! So how do I do this? What do you mean by early war? Do they sometimes attack before mid-1941? Also just updated to latest beta. Thanks @MikeJ
meeper
1637
Instructions: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-naval-access.1114924/
Provided you have ‘historical’ mode on, they’ll generally follow the correct timeline but it’s not a guarantee. Plus, it’s pretty easy to screw with things such that the AI might take a different choice somewhere.
jpinard
1638
Yep I always play with historical. Maybe after I win as all the major powers I will then go ahistorical. Ok loading things up to give a run! Thanks for all the help. So excited! I’m sure you all may spot some bad very decisions I make along the way. I’ll save for each major change I do, so if I really screw something up in build or research order I can go back and fix it.
BTW how much do I need to ban for them to ship stuff to Eastern ports of Russia? Like every single Black Sea, Baltic Sea, and Bering Sea port zone? Or even more outside of the ports?
jpinard
1639
How you do strike-through text in this forum?
KevinC
1641
< s > text < / s > (Minus the spaces)
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jpinard
1642
Should I be going concentrated or dispersed industry?
meeper
1643
Concentrated. The Germans aren’t big on strategic bombing and you want every scrap of productivity out of your factories.
jpinard
1644
Cool thanks! Things are well underway. Spanish civil war going a bit rough.
If you see a mistake in my research order as I do them, please let me know. I’m crossing off ones I finish and bolding the ones I’m researching.
rho21
1645
Some numbers from my UK game:
| Country |
Losses |
Losses to UK |
Kills of UK |
Manpower |
Policy |
| Italy |
5.76M |
5.2M |
160K |
500K |
All Adults Serve |
| Germany |
5.37M |
4.1M |
117K |
3M |
All Adults Serve |
| Nat. Spain |
3.33M |
3.1M |
82K |
59K |
All Adults Serve |
| Japan |
1.24M |
926K |
33K |
6.5M |
Scraping the Barrel |
| Vichy France |
555K |
430K |
24K |
400K |
Service by Requirement |
| Axis Total |
16.35M |
13.8M |
416K |
|
|
Allied losses total 1.66M. The UK has 885K manpower with Extensive Conscription in effect.
Italy and Germany aren’t as close to manpower collapse as I’d hoped, and even then they would certainly have many more divisions than I can field. Where are you, USA?
jpinard
1646
Should I take Free Trade or leave it at Export Focus? Hard to tell if you come out ahead with Free Trade or not, especially since that’s a lot of political points to go that route then have to switch back.
Also, not sure if I’m interpreting this wrong, but does Improved Equipment Conversion speed up how fast you adapt to making new weaponry and stuff when you replace old stuff with the new version in the production window?
I believe that’s solely for conversion between equipment variants, like Medium Tank 2 to Tank Destroyer 2/SP Artillery 2, or Fighter 3 to Fighter 3 mk2 (with whatever historical-ish names they have).
jpinard
1648
OK that’s quite a bit different than I thought.
How can I quickly get their strength back up (the little orange bar)?

jpinard
1649
Crap, the forum says I maxed out the number of edits I can do in my post further up above. So I guess I will have to continue it here:
Research:
- Land Doctrine - Delay
- Radio Detection
- Air Doctrine - Fighter Baiting
- Encryption
- LAGG-3 fighter
- M1940 107mm Artillery
- Construction III
- Concentrated Industry III
- Engineer Company II
- PPSh-41
- Excavation III
- Advanced Machine Tools
- Anti-Air upgrade
- Anti-Tank upgrade
- Recon Company II
- Air Doctrine - Low Echelon Support
- Improved Computing Machine
- Decimetric Radar
- Land Doctrine - Integrated Support
- BTR M1941
- Encryption - Cyclic Permutations
- Air Doctrine - Dispersed Fighting
- T-34 Medium Tank
- Land Doctrine - Regimental Combat Teams
- DS-39 & 82-PM-41
- Improved Artillery Upgrade I
- Improved Decimetric Radar
- Maintenance Company II
- Air Doctrine - Operational Destruction
- M-8-6 Rocket Artillery
- Land Doctrine - Mechanized Focus
- Construction IV
- Concentrated Industry IV
- M42 45mm Anti-Tank Gun
- M1940 25 mm AA
- Air Doctrine - Fighter Veteran Initiative
- Excavation IV
- Land Doctrine - Centralized Fire Control
- Improved Artillery Upgrade II
- Improved Anti-Tank II
- Improved Anti-Air II
- Rocket Artillery Upgrade I
- Improved Infantry Equipment II
- KV-1
- Advanced Computing Machine
- Air Doctrine - Naval Strike Torpedo Tactics
- Engineer Company III
- SG-43 Goryunov & 120-PM-3
- Land Tactics - Forward Observer
- Encryption - Pulse Code Modulation
- PTRD
- Improved Anti-Air II
- Improved Anti-Tank II
- Rocket Artillery Upgrade II
- Air Doctrine - Infiltration Bombing
Politics:
- Boris Shaposhnikov (Military Theorist)
- Mikhail Kalinin (Popular Figurehead)
- Kilment Voroshilov (Army Drill Specialist)
- Konstantin Verhsinin (Ground Support Expert)
- Ivan Konev (Concealment)
- Aleksander Vasilevsky (Army Regrouping)
Focus:
- An Oceangoing Navy instead of Lessons of War due to date
- Found the PCDI
- Anti-Fascist Diplomacy
- Lesson of War
- Research City Experiment
- Diversify the Program
- Closed City Network
- Improve the Stalin Line
- Construction Engineering “Continuous Focus”
AFAIK, it takes just a few days if you have the equipment/manpower and a supply route large enough. But then, I don’t see it get down so consistently across an army if those are appropriate.
MikeJ
1651
Note that when you are about to confirm changes to a division template if you hover it will tell you how much equipment this will require. This information is also available when switching some divs to a new template.
jpinard
1652
Ohhh I never hovered to check before. Will do that. Thanks!
This is how Production/Construction look right now (July 1938). See any mistakes in here?
…and Logistics breakdown:
Damn you frog. You’re making me install this game again. :D