Think back to the very beginning. He was on the ledge of a building, and Nathan came to talk to him (after he saved him jumping off the roof). He did not know he had powers yet, just speculated he did, and he walked towards his brother saying he felt special but did not know if he was, and Nathan pointed at him to look down, and he was hovering in mid air.

What happened to the Haitian? I thought he got killed in the future, but once he got Claire to the Petrelli’s, he disappeared.

Peter’s power is so badly defined right now that it is impossible to say wtf happened with regard to him absorbing powers. Logically, since his power is based on empathy, he shouldn’t get Sylar’s powers at all because Sylar stole them from the original owners and Peter can’t call them to mind the way he supposedly has to in order to turn his powers on. But since he did seem to get TK from Sylar on their first meeting, that kind of invalidates that. But why didn’t get he get ice-hands or other stuff Sylar already had then? And why didn’t Peter absorb Sylar’s new powers at Mohinder’s house? He should either have none of Sylar’s powers or should have had all of them at the Kirby Plaza meeting since he independently aquired Issac’s power previously.

Now that Hiro has shown that major events from the past can be changed, what’s to stop him from going to a time when Linderman is alive, grabbing him, forcing him to heal Charlie’s brain tumor somehow, saving her? His power is way too strong. The fact that Peter has it too in addition to everything else is just insane. Hopefully Peter comes back changed in some way, kind of nerfed, but since Sylar is likely to come back to… who knows?

I hope Sylar was dragged off by the “worse than the bogeyman” guy and isn’t alive, but based on various comments about how the writers/creators love Sylar, I’m not holding my breath. I think it is a huge, huge, HUGE mistake not to kill him off. Particularly because it is so ill defined as to what this whole season was about. Was the bomb actually something Linderman, et al actively planned or something they became aware of and thought was inevitable and were going to benefit from? The show gives ample evidence for either of those, and now with Linderman dead who knows if they will ever resolve it? Hopefully season 2 does but it feels like something they should have defined better in season 1. Between the background build-up to the bomb being ill defined and Sylar maybe getting away, it makes the entire season feel as if it served no greater purpose in an overall plot. The last couple of episodes of the season kind of cheapened the entire season, IMO.

Also, Linderman’s death and various other confrontations in the last two episodes really highlight a failing of this show that wasn’t as obvious to me previously – they tend to set up epic confrontations only to have solve them in comically (I mean that in a bad way) simple ways. From Linderman’s easy death to the whole Mexican Standoff over Molly to Peter’s first meeting of Ted in Kirby Plaza to Peter vs Sylar II and on and on and on. It is like build up, build up, BUILD UP… OMG… ridiculously simple resolution.

Also, where the fuck is Claude? Where the fuck is the Haitian?

I didn’t think the finale was too bad as I watched it but the further I get away from it the more it kinda sucks and thinking about it too much tends to bring up all sorts of questions about the entire season that have never been adequately answered or defined.

http://heroeswiki.com/Hana_Gitelman

Check the latest web comic.

Arguably the coolest moment of the season: Peter and Claude are on the roof, Eric Roberts is about to snipe them, Peter grabs Claude, jumps off the roof, and flies away to safety.

Which leads me to the question: why did Nathan have to fly Peter away? Why couldn’t Peter just fly away himself?

I didn’t think the finale was bad by any stretch, but I’m definitely in the underwhelmed camp. I thought the season was fillled with a lot of interesting and clever moments that the last two episodes seemed to lack.

I totally agree that Sylar needs to be dead, and the fact that the writers apparently left that door open weakens things.

They’ve already fooled us once, with the ending to the first half of the season (Save the cheerleader, save the world) being deceptive - the cheerleader wasn’t saved in a really meaningful way, as long as Sylar is alive. Basically this whole season has been about fixing threats from Sylar - the fact that he has now (apparently) survived TWO climaxes weakens the show. If Sylar is in fact alive, my trust in the show, the writers, and the promotions for the show will be much lower.

There’s no NEED to keep Sylar alive - the writers can certainly come up with new bad guys, new threats. I appreciate that they’ve been willing to shake things up throughout the season. But remember, Lost seemed to be moving forward for much of its first season as well, before it became, well, what Lost has been ever since…

I think the writers tried to answer this by that scene in the parking garage where Peter says he needs to have his brother there because he is scared. Pretty lame reasoning, but I think that’s what they were going for.

Also, hubby brought up Nathan’s repeating “You saved the cheerleader so we could save the world.” We’re thinking he said that to mean that because he knew Peter could regen after the explosion, Nathan had no qualms about letting it happen…getting Peter off the ground and himself to safety before BOOM.

When Nathan saved Peter, Nathan flew. Once that happened Peter absorbed his power. As of that point peter can fly. He may not know it, but he can.

As I said earlier in the thread, he is off in Romania filming a movie right now. They can only work with what they have, and when an actor disappears for a while, they have to end up disappearing in the show also.

Well then the show producers obviously need to work on their ability to schedule and properly contract people if they want them to play fairly major roles in the series.

He is definitely not dead. Just watching a kick ass battle before warping back to the present :)

Not just a battle, but one involving “the symbol” and an eclipse. Could that whole thing be one part Evil Dead 2/Army of Darkness, one part La Jetee/Terminator, with Hiro somehow doing something causes the beginnings of the genetic mutations?

The power doesn’t need to be activated for Peter to absorb it. Ted wasn’t doing his radioactive man thing in Kirby Plaza, Claire didn’t regen in front of him, Issac didn’t paint in front of him before he started doodling the future, etc.

I have to agree with the camp who feels it was a shit finale.

The Heroes Honeymoon is over.

Forced, contrived, disjointed are all great descriptors for this season finale.

The only descriptor I haven’t heard yet is “anti-climactic”. Which it totally was. I waited ALL season for this episode? phooey!

It’s too bad – there was so much opportunity that the writers could have taken advantage of. Instead they ruined it.

I like how they show a solar eclipse in feudal Japan, which just so happens to be the logo for Heroes (which previously seemed to just be something meant to be “cool looking”). Perhaps this solar eclipse will figure more prominently into explaining why people started getting powers? We’ll see next season, I suppose.

… what’s the deal with Heroes: Origins, anyway?

Examples? Why was it ruined?

The only parts I didn’t really like were Sylar not being dead (I’m bored of him already), Suresh not being killed, DL warping from the floor to behind Linderman with zero explanation, and why Peter didn’t fly on his own or get someone to make him pass out instead of asking someone to shoot him in the brain.

Technically, Nathan could have survived as well. They didn’t show him dying, so he could have flown up and let go of Peter in the air. Peter could then just either fly himself after the explosion, or hurtle to the ground and then heal himself again (which either case would have to happen even if Nathan did die).

I wanted to note that Peter visiting Charles (wasn’t that his name?), Simone’s father, in the past was eerily similar to the little boy’s power that Suresh encountered. Even the quotes about “you came here looking for something” seem familiar.

I move that only things shown on primtime episodes of Heroes are canon and suggestions to “read the comics” will be met with The Hand.

I agree with Stroker. The comics are a nice supplement, but they shouldn’t be required reading to follow the show.

Oh, and

I’m going to assume you missed the first episode.

couldn’t had said it better myself.

Yes, the whole meta-media thing with the comics, emails, websites and stuff is so similar to the end of the first season of LOST that it’s a total turnoff. We all know how all the web content from LOST figured so prominantly into the actual show (hint:it didn’t). I know the comics for Heroes have been a little better about fitting around the edges of the story so far, but I distrust anything not actually produced by the writers themselves.