Hollow Knight - convince me to keep playing


#231

I beat the Mantis Lords!

I took a break and went and bought the fragile heart and fragile strength charms. This gave me enough charms to buy another notch. First I had to farm some geo. Then I made my way back and equipped the Longnail, Dreamshield, Thorns of Agony, and Defender’s Crest charms. My intention was to practice a bit and then equip the fragile strength and fragile heart charms. But, I killed the first one pretty quickly and lasted quite a while after that. A couple more tries and I killed them all. Such a relief. While frustrating, it was enjoyable when I saw myself making progress and lasting longer before dying. Then I knew I had a chance.


#232

Holy crap this has been confusing. I’ve been trying to get back to a known area. I explored much of Deepnest and beat the optional boss. I’m just trying to get back to the starting area. I keep exploring and find The Mask Maker, who does absolutely nothing. It was a long trek. Then I went all the way back down and headed left. I made it to Distant Village where a bunch of guys grabbed me and put me in The Beast’s Den… Now I’m wandering around here without a map. Those large tunnel beasts take some time to kill. I just wanted to see if I had enough essence to upgrade my nail again. I think that was what I needed so I could buy the material to do the upgrade. It’s been so long I’m not even sure.

Edit: Phew - made it out after absorbing a creature with the dream nail.


#233

I started using a walkthrough because I don’t remember why I couldn’t go to some places and I got tired of walking back and forth. It looks like I started when maybe I was 75% of the way through.

I’m close, like really close - but I’m also kinda stuck. I need to win the 2nd challenge at the coliseum so I can get the final upgrade for my nail. I think I was close to that because I got to the part where you need to stay airborne while you fight.

I skipped to the next step and am getting pummeled by The Lost Knight, or Failed Knight, I can’t remember. According to the walkthrough I am close to getting to the final main encounter. Maybe I could just skip ahead to that, but i’m guessing that is really tough.

I’m happy I made it this far - even if I did cheat for the last little bit. I still had to actually do the stuff. Just not sure if I’m going to make it all the way.

Edit: OK, beat the Fallen Knight guy. Going to try again at the coliseum.
Edit: Beat challenge 2 of coliseum!


#234

Didn’t touch this for about a month and The White Palace finally did it. It broke my will to continue. Holy crap it is brutal. It just requires more precision and skill than I can muster over the long haul. I watched a walk through of that level and I’m about 2/3s in. This guy who is good took just over 30 minutes to get through the entire level. I must have played this level for several hours to get where I am in the White Palace.


#235

White palace is only needed for the hidden ending, and it’s definitely the peak of difficulty in the game.

Tip: get the honey charm. With that one you can refresh your hits in the white palace after each fall, making it equally hard, but more unlikely you’ll die and thus will never have to go back and repeat a previous section.


#236

Yeah, I have the honey charm. Progress is just too slow as it takes around 30 seconds to regain the lost health each time. I think I’m pretty bad at this section.

How do you get the non hidden ending? If I can make a dash for that maybe I will.


#237

*Laugh. This was a good way to start the morning.


#238

Just get the three boss souls and kill the Hollw Knight


#239

I may have killed the dreamers already. I know I at least have 2. Maybe I can just try to make it by forgetting about the White Palace.


#240

I retreated from the White Palace and beat the Hollow Knight. I don’t care if it is the worst ending, I finally made it! Percentage was 93% with around 80 hours (yep I’m bad).

As much as I got frustrated I’m happy I played. It is a good game.


#241

Oh, well done. It’s okay to stop somewhere. The game starts as a cakewalk, but I’m amazed at how hard it becomes.

The “fake” final boss is nowhere near as hard as the real final boss, which is nothing next to the optional Nightmare King Grimm.

The normal path through the White Palace is itself pretty easy compared to its optional super hard detour.

And then you can try the whole game on permadeath mode, if you want.

But that’s nothing compared to the super boss rush mode of 40 bosses, which lasts more than an hour with no break. And if that’s not enough, you can try beating the bosses on one hit death mode individually of redo the whole boss rush crippled in four different ways.

That rabbit hole is very deep.


#242

I saw that and practically started laughing. I can’t imagine playing that.


#243

I mean, credit where credit is due, look at this stuff!

Contains spoilers, obviously.

EDIT: Just to be clear, he’s doing it with all possible handicaps:

Nail Binding\ 50x50 NAIL BINDING

Reduces nail damage to 80% or sets it to 13 if the damage is at 13 or above. Nail Arts damage is calculated based on this damage.
Shell Binding\ 50x50 SHELL BINDING

Limits the Knight’s maximum available masks to four, but does not affect Lifeblood masks or masks granted by Fragile Heart or Unbreakable Heart.
Charms Binding\ 50x50 CHARMS BINDING

Unequips all charms and prevents the player from equipping them again.
Soul Binding\ 50x50 SOUL BINDING

Allows only 33% SOUL to be gathered and disables SOUL vessels, allowing for one Focus to heal or one Spell cast.


#244

I watched some of it. That’s nuts!


#245

In a few days, we’ll get to see Hollow Knight’s first paid DLC, which adds a playable Hornet character.


#246

Swell.

The rumor is that it’s supposed to be a standalone sub-game, but we’ll see very soon.


#247

A full-blown sequel rather than a dlc, which includes the following:

  • Discover a whole new kingdom! Explore coral forests, mossy grottos, gilded cities and misted moors as you ascend to the shining citadel at the top of the world.
  • Engage in lethal acrobatic action! Wield a whole new suite of nimble moves as you dance between foes in deadly, beautiful combat.
  • Craft powerful tools! Master an ever-expanding arsenal of weapons, traps and mechanisms to confound your enemies and explore new heights.
  • Solve shocking quests! Hunt down rare beasts, unearth ancient mysteries and search for lost treasures to fulfil the wishes of the downtrodden and restore the kingdom’s hope. Prepare for the unexpected!
  • Face over 150 all-new foes! Beasts and hunters, assassins and kings, monsters and knights – defeat them all with bravery and skill!
  • Experience a stunning orchestral score! Hollow Knight’s award-winning composer, Christopher Larkin, returns to bring melancholy melodies, symphonic strings and heart-thumping, soul strumming boss themes to the adventure.
  • Challenge Silk Soul mode! Once you conquer the game, test your skills in an all-new mode that spins the game into a unique, challenging experience.

Team Cherry released a 20 minute video discussing their plans, and a blog post where they reveal that they’ve sold nearly 3 million copies of the first game!


#248

My main gripe with the original (which I loved) was that the combat was pretty flat and didn’t expand too much. This seems to have fixed that in a big way, tying combat and traversal in a more integrated flow.

I’m going to be all over this.


#249

The combat does look more interesting, but the video made me realize I’m not ready for more Hollow Knight. I assume release is a year away so I have time.


#250

My fear is that they captured lighting with the original and it’s going to be hard to keep it fresh. I’m mostly curious to see what the map structure/secret stuff is going to look like. They can’t just rehash the first game and expect it to feel as fresh. I hope they rethink that as they seem to have rethought the combat.