And what laws and rights set women as “much less than” men?
And what laws and rights set men as “much less than” women?
The traditionalist view IS THE FEMINIST VIEW.
Men are emotionally invulnerable, rapey bastards, women are sweet, empathic caregivers who wouldn’t hurt a fly - that is the traditionalist view, and that is the feminist view.
You understand that the older type of feminism that arose initially from women discovering their ability to do work just as well as men, which came from working class women’s experiences the two world wars, is now derided as “choice feminism” by Third Wave feminists, right?
CraigM
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I mean, keep trucking, but you have chosen some weird hills to die on, ones that require a rather twisted form of logic.
Um … no. I understand you think some nutjob fringe individuals may have the ability to redefine our language, but no.
Actual descriptions of trigger warnings in the wild. Views both for and against.
http://www.collegian.com/2016/02/csu-professors-on-trigger-warnings/152284/
witnessing students have “extreme and potentially dangerous reactions to texts we’ve read and considered,”
What?
"Ok class, if you can turn the book to page 140, Chapter 4, February: the murderous passions, and we will continue where we left off. Hébé has just been anally raped by the libertines and has died, but the libertines want to continue on her corpse, Johnny, can you pick up from the paragraph where de Sade introduces Thérèse? “yes, from had no hair or teeth. Her ass, which she had never wiped in her whole life, resembled a volcano, that’s the one.”
Boy! Those classes are tough. Even I wouldn’t want to read 120 Days!
Mitchell previously required his ENG 405 Adolescents’ Literature class, a required course for those majoring in English Education, to read the young adult novel “Wintergirls” by Laurie Halse Anderson, but removed it from the syllabus after students explained to him how it was difficult for them to read due to the ways it reinforced obsessive eating practices through its language.
Oh.
Tortilla
1686
Key quote from that article:
“As there are no official policies at CSU about the use of verbal or written warnings, each professor is able to act as they see fit.”
Tortilla
1688
Good point, they should probably have a trigger warning for people like you around texts like that.
I like it. Trigger warnings on trigger warnings.
“Warning: Reading the following warning my cause you to inflate the import and/or intent of the caution and post diatribes on Internet message boards.”
Timex
1690
It depends on whether you have fixed size integers.
An interesting article on Cheating and Competition:
“Winning seems to have this strange effect on people,” said Amos Schurr, a professor of psychology at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Israel. “When people succeed in competition against others, it seems to compromise their ethics. It makes them more likely to cheat afterwards.”…
…In other words, when people win against others, they tend to think they’re better, or more deserving. And that thinking helps them justify cheating, since, after all, they’re the rightful heir to whatever throne is next — “If I’m better than you, I might as well make sure I win, because I deserve to anyway.”…
…Competition, however, touches far more than games and sports. It is, for better or worse, a staple of the entirety of modern Western civilization. And that might be perpetuating its fair share of societal injustices, too.
There’s reason to believe, for instance, that this phenomenon could be perpetuating social and income inequality. There is ample research, after all, that shows people who win from a socioeconomic perspective tend to not only continue to win, but also bend the rules a bit while doing it.
The “nutjob fringe individuals” are feminists (more broadly, intersectional SJWs), and they constantly attempt to redefine language.
And they keep getting away with it - because somehow they’ve managed to work their way from the fringe to positions of influence.
Haven’t you noticed?
Quaro
1693
I agree with their change actually:
In the case of an example which has recently received much attention, of the phrase “rabid feminist” to exemplify the sense of rabid meaning ‘having or proceeding from an extreme or fanatical support of or belief in something’, the example is an accurate representation of the meaning of the word: rabid is used in this way to denigrate the noun it modifies, and the real-life sentence from which the example was taken involved someone denigrating a person described as being a feminist. However, it was a poorly chosen example in that the controversial and impolitic nature of the example distracted from the dictionary’s aim of describing and clarifying meaning. A more generic example, like “rabid extremist” or “rabid fan”, would also have been supported by evidence on our corpora, and would have illustrated the meaning of the word without those negative impacts.
Blame me for the ensuing megadeaths.
I don’t care what you call it, what I’m talking about is any systematic take on society that has the following features:-
- A source of “power” of some sort.
- “oppressor/oppressed” groups defined by their closeness to or distance from that source of “power”.
- Human behaviour wholly determined by group membership.
That type of thing is what has a tendency to become sinister. That type of thing is what turns to shit when it has political power. That type of thing has internal purges, as moderate, well-meaning people are replaced by people with evil intent. That type of thing eventually results in megadeaths.
Do you need some historical reminders?
you said you were never pushed into anything as a kid. Clearly that is not true. Our parents mold us as best they can to (hopefully) be good people and be ready for the world and society we are entering.
You think I needed to be pushed into behaving nicely?
Ideologies like humanism and egalitarianism, which feminism is a de facto subset of,
According to the dictionary definition, yes. And according to the encyclopedia North Korea is the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.”
should be fundamental to a truly free society, and were I to have a child I would certainly strive to instill those values in them.
I should hope you would instill egalitarian values. Will you also instill patriarchy theory?
The idea that teaching your children good values increases the chance they will rebel against those values is absurd.
That only works if feminism instills good values.
Dictionary shows usage, it’s not supposed to be an ideological tool. “Rabid” is associated with feminism because feminists are often rabid. Want some video reminders?
Oppressed people should know their place I guess.
Do you need some historical reminders?
The American Revolution is a good one, followed maybe by the American Civil War?
You think I needed to be pushed into behaving nicely?
Maybe gently but yes. Children do need to learn how to be civilized.
I should hope you would instill egalitarian values. Will you also instill patriarchy theory?
You are definitely afraid of something.
They are human beings! I guess that means all humans must be painted with whatever brush you feel like using today. Seriously, this isn’t the hill you want to die on. I have read your posts for years. You’re a smart person. I don’t know if you’re just trolling for the heck of it (in which case, bravo) or if you’re tragically misinformed.
Allow me, if you will: the majority of people who describe themselves as feminists don’t number a wave to add detail to their beliefs. Likewise, the majority of people who are for LGBT rights have never used the term “cisgender” in their lives. The majority of people also don’t post about their beliefs or write screeds - you’re lucky if they “like” a lame picture that says “I like pie” or some other not so clever phrase that vaguely supports whatever position. If you are dealing with such people, they are on the fringe. There’s nothing inherently bad about being on a fringe, but it’s important to always understand where one’s footing is. Likewise, it’s important to recognize these people when you see them, because if you assume that they are representative of the broader group then you are missing out on so much variety in the world and all the good (and occasional bad) that gives us.
To this day, I do not actually know what intersectionality is or what an intersectional SJW could possibly be.
I do not really care, it does not touch on my life or the life of anyone I know male or female, black or white, and I know several university professors.
18 months into the SJW argument Soapy admits he doesn’t know what a SJW is.
I knew it. You always were too nice.
