I fear I may have been the cause of the inevitable food derail, for which sorry not sorry.

Also, obligatory:

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I recently found a book which echoes many of my thoughts on British cuisine, namely that the ingredients are great, the knowledge is there, but there is a convenience first and short work break culture and an acceptance of mediocrity, which might be a perversion of the stiff upper lip mentality.

There’s also a lot of social and physical, geographical mobility, meaning not much setting down of roots, plus family groupings are small (nuclear as opposed to extended, like in other European countries, .e.g. Spain)

The simplified results is a rootless population (meaning no chance to assimilate cultural artifacts such as cooking./ Rootless here meaning disconnected from the rural community and the land. The book goes into great detail of places in England that produce superb stuff, but you never hear about it) with little time on its hands.

An example therefore is a harried and rush mother and father who settle for something quick for the kids, e.g. cornflakes. In Spain, an aunt or grandmother is not far away, and things are much less rushed.

Then add in half an hr for lunch, as opposed to 1 or 2 hours, meaning the natural tendency is to something quick, easy and portable, preferably cheap as you need to repeat this operation 5 times a week —> sandwiches etc, as opposed to home cooking you take to work because, when you get home from work you are tired, and so cannot be bothered to cook something from scratch.

Under such conditions, it almost doesn’t matter how good the base quality of ingredients is.

Layer onto that the sheer variety of stuff on offer (so many people trying to extract your £££,) and services such as deliveroo (in 20 odd minutes I can have pretty much any cuisine I want delivered to my door → it would take me about the same time to cook up a meal, AND I know what I am doing AND I manage to salvage alot of stuff from the restaurant I work in, so my ingredient costs are LOW. I have a kilo of cooked chicken and about half a kilo of prawns, gotten for free :)

Layer onto that the cumulative lack of knowledge because all of the above makes it easier to NOT learn how to cook properly, and NOT learn how to shop effectively.

Then ontop of that layer on a perceived snobbishness regarding people who do like and care about their food, and the idea that knowing about food is something for foodies, pretentious gits and Gordon Ramsays.

There is also a certain perception that cooking is hard.

As a child I knew how to make omelettes, boiled eggs, fried eggs and pancakes by about age 6.
That is somehow amazing for a 6 year old to do here, because they are just not taught.

And this is not something to teach in school either.

So, long rant ending.

That book?

ftfy.

Translation: All of the vaccinated people he knows got tired of his shit and ghosted him. They must have died.

Everything you describe is exactly the same in the United States. I guess it’s true that we’re not particularly known for our cuisine here. What is our cuisine? TexMex? Lobster rolls? Soul food? Soul food, at least, is somewhat similar to what natives of the southeast ate for hundreds of year. That said, it’s easy to find high quality vittles here.

I had a great time on my visits to the USA, food wise :).

Sum of its parts. A country the size of the US with the diversity we built upon isn’t going to have a single monolithic cuisine. So you go on Reddit and ask what the local standouts are when you travel, and find hidden gems everywhere. The more homogenous whitebread European nations are small enough, lack diversity, and are much older so they have some established cuisines.

We, like the British, get lots of good cuisine from our immigrants. But our main claim to culinary fame is the hamburger and chicago style deep dish pizza.

The U. S. is actually not as diverse as we think we are. We rank pretty low on cultural diversity worldwide. Below France and Spain. I think we do have a monolithic cuisine: the kind of food you serve at a bar-be-que or church potluck. Hamburgers, hot dogs, fried chicken, potato salad and watermelon are ubiquitous and pretty characteristic of U.S. culture.

That seems heavily weighted towards different languages, the top ten most diverse countries are all African with small ethnic groups.

What have you done?

What? It’s the best pizza that America produces!

That study seems maybe questionable? It uses language as a proxy for cultural similarity, and maybe that’s well justified in the literature, but that seems to have some obvious issues to me.

Gören considered the ethnicity and similarity of language between each country’s major people groups. Gören reasoned that people groups who shared a language were more likely to also share other aspects of their culture, while groups whose languages were dissimilar probably also had additional significant cultural differences.

Mostly, I wanted to note how terrible the diagram they have is. Using shades of red->purple as your gradient is extremely hard to differentiate.

I thought after much debate we decided it was a casserole?

Soupy bread.

LOL - the thought came to mind, but it’s thankfully a WFH/remote position. We’ll keep crazy people as long as they do the job and don’t cause headaches.

Or AM I?!?

Even better, lol

You’re probably not far off from the truth, lol

That’s when you reply, “Oh, that’s because getting the shot is the final challenge before RAPTURE! That is why I’m onboarding you today, you’re going to take my place soon when I ascend!”

LMAO - I like the cut of your jib

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