Immigration in the US

I’m sure he means it. He feels obligated to give his supporters what they want, and what he thinks they want is an end to immigration. We’re past the point of this just being noise, this is his program.

Whether he can actually do is the question.

@Menzo I’m with Enidigm here. I truly think Trump meant this and he will attempt to pursue it. Talking to counsel about it isn’t something one would do just to drum up a vote for midterms.

As far as I’m concerned, if he actually signs this Executive Order, he is in clear violation of his Oath of Office to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Cool, we can throw that on the pile of reasons to impeach him

Does this mean Ted Cruz will have to leave?

He’s burrowed into the soft flesh of Texas like a tick, gonna take more than an executive order to get him out.

Oh, I think there’s a little of both here. Trump certainly would LOVE to do his most-favorite presidential thing (signing random crap) and ban brown people from the country, but he probably also knows that there is no way it would survive a legal challenge, even with Kavenaugh on the SCOTUS.

But the reason he’s doing it NOW is to excite his base and desperately get as many racist scumbags to the polls as he possibly can.

I mean, this seems like something they cooked up in the White House aquarium, and once it has to exist in the bigger pond there are going to be a lot of GOP lawyers who are going to be waving this shit off desperately.

“they tell me I can do it with an executive order”

Who is they? The same geniuses that came up with the idea to put children into prisons?

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I hear the caravan of invading illegals is bringing back leprosy to the US!

That kind of biblical imagery may work to motivate voters, but sending thousands of troops to the border is just a headline grabbing campaign ad, paid for by taxpayers!

It’s extra funny cause leprosy never left.
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2018-08-07/armadillos-pose-a-leprosy-threat-and-humans-are-the-reason-why

It’s mainly that with antibiotics, leprosy is pretty trivially cured. It takes a while, but that’s mainly just to make sure that it’s fully or if your system. It’s not a thing that cause any kind of long term effects in modern society.

Yeah, we see them here, now and then. The wife will make sure the dogs don’t go near them. Same with Trump supporters, actually.

Migrant caravan is bringing disease, but vaccinations aren’t to be trusted.

Makes total sense.

Nobody appreciates the economic value of a good plague anymore… jobs jobs jobs!

Lots of job openings and new jobs.

See? It creates new positions, as well as openings in old ones!

Trump is just throwing nonsense at the wall, hoping some of it will motivate his base. Between this and the “caravan invasion” mess, it shows that they have nothing beyond racism to offer.

That will motivate some of his base, for sure. But I have to wonder if this doesn’t hurt him even more among independents and the non-evil wing of his party.

Taibbi looks at Russia begging for immigrants and sees parallels to the US;

Russia should be open not only to Russians and Russian speakers, but to anyone who is loyal and willing to integrate into Russian society.

Russia, you see, has a serious problem with population decline. They’re expecting a 28 percent plunge in women of childbearing age by 2032. Their population peaked at about 148 million, in 1991.

You might notice that as the year of the collapse of communism. After the revolution, a series of factors — including introduction to the joys of international capitalism, with the accompanying loss of free health care, spiking economic inequality, accelerated substance abuse, etc. — caused Russia to begin shrinking.

The average life expectancy of Russian males plunged six years, from a pre- perestroika high of about 70 years to a low of about 64, in 1994. Soon, while American men had a 1 in 11 chance of dying before the age of 55, the dice roll for Russian males was about 1 in 4. The economic catastrophe of the Nineties resulted in at least a few million premature deaths and possibly more, depending on what study you believe.

Sharp increases in mortality seemed directly tied to economic events, like the 1998 collapse of the ruble. Specifically, increased deaths were most commonly tied to alcohol consumption, followed by associated health complications, homicide, suicide and booze-related accidents: flying passenger liners under the influence, forgetting you’re on an ice floe while fishing, guzzling methanol-spiked bath lotion when you run out of vodka, etc.