Didn’t John Kelly go to one of those companies?

Only at a child prison could he truly realize his dream of being the adult in the room.


Well the obvious difference is that Moore and Rohde were journalists while these children are the lowest of the low, the scummiest of the scum, the brownest of the brown criminals, trying their best to usurp democracy, infiltrate the country, and steal all the coal jobs.

This scares me from travel. Seriously. My company at one point floated out a, “you should not give consent to have your work laptop searched due to company security.” Yeah. Good luck with that shit.

It’s insane what the CBP is doing and getting away with.

I’m going to London next week. I guess I should just bring a freshly-formatted laptop instead.

It’d be funny if you had a laptop with nothing but pictures insulting the border patrol guys, saying things like, “Border patrol agents suck massive nutz”. And then they had to look through them all, one by one, for hours.

They could open my chrome and see how often I visit here then decide to tag me as a subversive. Or confiscate my shit.

I know the giving up password thing is not old but it scares the hell out of me. So what if they want me to give up my lastpass? Fuck you, my bank shit’s in there too.

For what it’s worth, CPB does not actually have the power to prevent you from entering the US if you are a US citizen, at least not without accusing you of a crime.

They can detain you and hassle you, but they can’t stop you from coming in if you have proper paperwork to prove you are a citizen.

But yeah, it’s total bullshit. If I remember correctly there is a case floating around challenging the power to search and seize your devices without a warrant, but it can’t come too soon.

Say ‘fuck you, do you have a warrant? This is an unconstitutional search’. I have a work laptop with proprietary information, they could, theoretically, fire me if I showed them.

I fly a ton, and haven’t seen anyone be searched like that. I’ve also been through international travel 3 times in the last 4 years, including travel through one fo the gulf states. I’ve never seen a laptop searched. However the fact that they can and do is odious and illegal.

I have the same. Trust me I’d be in deep doodoo. But what are your options at that point. Similar to @wisefool I have my password database on their too. Are you forced to open that and give them the keys to the kingdom? With no warrant?

I mean yeah, you can try being belligerent, but the reality is that the law right now says that they can take your laptop and phone and search it for any reason or no reason at all. They are also allowed to copy the contents for review later.

If you employer is actually concerned about it, they should give you a second laptop that lives only at your international destination.

These searches are probably very rare given the number of people who travel internationally. But they should amount to precisely zero.

My company has an explicit policy about that. We are told that for work devices, we can and should comply with the request and then once we have entered the country, call our security team to let them know of the breach and they will handle it from there. And “handle it” does not mean terminating the employee. That is, we’re told clearly that we are not expected to jeopardize ourselves to protect the company.

No rational company would terminate an employee for complying with CPB. If they did, they’d get sued and lose, big time.

Now if the company instructed employees not to travel with confidential information, and the employee did anyway, that would be a different story.

I agree. And yet many people are concerned about retaliatory action from their employers. So my company makes it explicit to help employees understand they are not at risk from the company in that scenario. It is tragic that it’s necessary to do so, but such is the world we live in.

Sure, and let me be clear. I would expect no retaliation from my company in such a scenario. However we are told to be mindful of traveling internationally for that reason.

I just get a bit persnickety about the computer angle, and I absolutely would push back. Because while I roll my eyes and grumble about things like the body scanners, ultimately I don’t make a fuss. Which is a mark against me. But I also have flown probably 20 times in the past year.

But going into my computer is a bridge too far for me, one I would absolutely not tolerate. To the degree that I would not comply with such a request and point out conspicuously how their request is invalid. It really rubs me the wrong way. How it would play out from there, I have no idea. But if they tried to detain me, I absolutely would be thrilled to take them to court.

Make that Acting President Miller’s chaotic immigration policy.

Just an unrelenting shitstain. Completely unable to take responsibility for anything. Anything at all.

Wayfair, it turns out, sells to BCFS, a furnishings contractor for the children’s concentration camps in Texas. Employees found out and asked the CEO and board to stop. The leadership refused and encouraged the employees to work with their government if they didn’t like the policies. 547 Mayfair employees have vowed to walk out.

If you want some fun, check out the replies on Twitter to the official Wayfair account.