Timex
3031
They do a lot of dumb things in court, but I doubt that the current justices on the court would support such a notion. Gorsuch, for instance, would be unlikely to go along with that kind of abandonment of fairly straightforward text in the constitution. Stevens, likewise, wouldn’t want to be the guy in charge when that kind of blatently political change took place.
I’m pretty sure the whole thing is a ploy to get minorities and immigrants to be under-represented in the census because they will paranoid about the consequences of participating (regardless of whether they’re documented or not). That damage is done, whether any question actually appears in the census.
Timex
3033
Ya, that’s exactly why they wanted to do it. They straight up said so in the emails they found from the GOP strategist… crazy luck, him dying and his daughter randomly finding those emails.
ShivaX
3034
Texas will likely enjoy potentially losing reps.
Nesrie
3035
Only if CA and TX were treated the same which has… somewhere between to zero and extremely low chances of happening.
ShivaX
3036
Eh, maybe. It’s a federal agency, so I don’t see them changing stuff much per state.
The problem is that other than Texas most of the states with a higher % of non-citizens are Democratic or at least lean heavily in that direction.
Nesrie
3037
Officially, of course they wouldn’t. Census is taken by agents though, people. I mean there were efforts to get people to go vote on the wrong day, you don’t think they can try and scare people by asking questions that aren’t actually on the Census?
ShivaX
3038
It’s possible. I’ve only met one Census taker in my life and she was quite liberal, to the point of bitching about tax cuts while we talked.
It isn’t a job that would historically attract conservatives, but I could see them pushing to get their people in those positions in the future. Then again Trump didn’t exactly give them time to prepare, he pulled it out of his ass fairly recently.
CraigM
3040
It’s almost like you can’t trust someone who acts like a mob boss.
Or don’t negotiate with terrorists.
Yep. With a galaxy sized conman like DJT it’s best to assume he’s going to be crooked on every single thing.
This is Trump having lost now telling states they ought to violate the constitution by apportioning districts based on numbers of citizens rather than numbers of people.
Worth noting that if the courts had ruled their way, these raids would be happening just as the census forma were being printed, reinforcing to minorities who might have a family member who is not a citizen that would take probably best not to open the door when the census taker comes.
Historically, this has been a problem anyway. Minorities are suspicious of the motives behind census takers. This results in underrepresentation for certainly n groups. The citizen question was designed to exacerbate that problem. Even though they didn’t win, the discussion itself followed by these raids will have a chilling effect.
Clay
3044
Imagine being a Trump supporter and then being arrested and detained by ICE…
Oghier
3045
I know I shouldn’t laugh. I really shouldn’t.
The Deep State probably put their names on the list of raids so that they could deport good, America-loving Trump supporters. Don’t worry though, Q will fix it.
“She ended up doing it all on her own, but she said she continues to believe Mr. Trump will “make America great again.” She intends to vote for him in 2020.”
sympathy… fading…
Timex
3048
According to the Cato Institute, from 2006 to 2017 ICE wrongfully detained more than 3,500 U.S. citizens in Texas alone.
This is nuts… in one state, in one year, ICE wrongfully detained 3500 people?
But also, those are not ALL the wrongfully detained, just the ones which were SO wrongfully detained they were actually citizens. How many were legal residents or had some protected status but were still detained, and for how long?
