3212

That’s like saying they pay for part of the ICE budget because they can’t get their payroll w/h back because they don’t have legit SSN’s.

3213

No, it isn’t. Lots of citizens with kids rent rather than own, so they don’t pay property taxes. They are no different than undocumented residents who rent in that respect. If ‘people who don’t pay property taxes directly don’t fund schools’, then lots of citizens don’t fund schools.

3214

Whatever. They pay sales taxes to the state so they are funding the cops who are looking for them. How is that different?

3215

I currently rent instead of own. My landlord pays property taxes, which comes out of the rent I pay. My eldest will start school in the fall.

So, I feel like I pay taxes, just indirectly.

In a few months, I will be a home owner, so I will just do it more directly.

3216

In any case, there’s no citizenship test to buy property in the US. Lots of the condos in Trump tower are owned by Russians, for example. Whole neighborhoods in some cities are owned by foreigners who don’t live there.

3217

As a counter argument, I don’t even know how that works, so I can’t say how it is different.

Here, an argument:

Person A - Kids of undocumented residents shouldn’t go to school!
Person B - Why not?
Person A - They don’t pay property taxes because they don’t own property!
Person B - Well, I’m a citizen and I don’t own property either, so I don’t pay property taxes. Does that mean my kids can’t go to school?

3218

Oh, in this example, I could be person B.

Besides, the benefits of kids going to school extent so far wider then just the people involved in the school system, the students and parents.

I wonder how much crime would increase if kids didn’t go to school?

3219

Let’s dispense with this. Renters pay property taxes! Enough already. Nobody has ever suggested that renters should get fewer rights because they don’t directly pay taxes to the government instead of those payments coming from the property owner.

3220

We agree.

3221

I have no problem with the children of illegal immigrants attending schools. I get it does cost the schools money (Fresno Unified has to teach in 50+ languages or dialects) but the benefit to the kids is worth it. The one big negative is that so many of the kids move around and so never get to take full advantage of the educational opportunity.

3222

Be prepared for a shock. Property tax costs vary from district to district and state to state. The district I live in now has never turned down a property tax increase for schools, whereas the one we moved here from finally passed one two years ago for the first time in almost a 1/4 century. Guess who had the better schools.

I remember once bitching about my property taxes until people from New Jersey and Illinois talked about theirs. I don’t bitch anymore.

3223

We pay property tax in Carson but our girls will go to school in Torrance, with its much better school system. Take that, Torrance taxpayers!

3224

Think of the sacrifices they have to make to accrue that type of money with the low wages they do. I have no idea on per person, it’s just an amount I’ve seen thrown around and quite frankly, I’m not even sure it’s accurate, but the point is we are letting them essentially throw away a huge amount of cash to get into our country when that same cash could be used to set them up pretty nicely in an apt and give them 4-6 months of living.

Hell, 10K is far more than 50% of American’s have saved. I think we’d want to encourage that kind of people to come to into the US!

3225

The average doesn’t even have 400 or 500 dollars to cover an emergency. Ten thousand in cash would is a huge amount even if they made more than min wage.

3226

You priced an apartment lately? I worked in a not so great part of town and it was amazing what apartments cost in the area.

As an aside…I have read people that say federal funding has driven up college costs, is there any connection between section 8 housing and costs? I don’t mean sec8 housing shouldn’t exist but it seems to set a cost basis that leads to apartments in some areas being over priced.

I do think one reason immigrants can survive here on so little money is that they are still willing to live in large family units, whereas most native Americans can’t wait to get their own place or away from their family.

3227

One of the ways to get the money is for the family to take a predatory loan from the very criminals that sell their transportees into servitude. The unfortunate immigrant must then work for crap wages and pay back the loan at horrendous interest rates on threat of personal harm or their family back home being harmed.

That’s if they aren’t sold into sexual slavery.

3228

Renters pay property taxes indirectly.

3229

Had you read the posts above? :)

3230

Overall I’m not too worried about the change in policies because they come from top down. But the all the immigration agents I’ve ever met in person who actually meet immigrants to determine whether they should get a green card or citizenship are all really nice people who seem to be in it because they believe America to be the land of immigrants. That’s why they got into the profession they did.

Now, if I see MAGA people trying to get into this career, then I’ll start getting worried.

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