3753

I was against any brigading immediately because the video that was widely distributed cuts off way too early to really see what happened with the doormen. It was cut like you’d cut a video specifically to make them look bad.

3754

Why would anyone have any incentive to purposefully make these security guards look poorly?

Initially I thought this guy took one look at the poor woman and just closed the door on human suffering. Now it seems like, he closed the door, didn’t realize what happened and then responded with some hesitation but did actually respond in maybe a minute or so.

When something unexpected happens, some people respond very quickly and others process more slowly. The entire video is 6 minutes, but they actually go out there and flag down a police car long before the end of it. They did the right thing within minutes.

3755

I mean… off the top of my head here are a few reasons why someone would deceptively edit to make the guards look bad.

Right wing agitators spreading it to delegitimize pro equality groups and the media by coming out with the full video later as a ‘gotcha’
Groups looking to create outrage to drive fundraising
People on social media simply looking to gain a following by getting people angry
Some people just like to watch the world burn
Honest mistake, or misunderstanding of the full clip
Social media and Tik Tok style snippets being more prone to drive views than long video, so using that format to try and maximize exposure
Seriously, social media is shit and incentivizes out of context clips over meaningful and in depth coverage. This is part of that logical end state

And more, I’m sure. Point being someone intentionally cutting the video to make the doormen look bad is entirely plausible, and could be done for any number of ideological or commercial goals.

3756

Yeah I was thinking “clicks” but thank you for a great rundown.

3757

Sometimes humanity just sucks.

You’d think watching a woman get beat suddenly on camera would be sufficient for… clicks.

3758

I may get shit for this…

The guy who eventually closes the door seems to catch the woman falling out of the corner of his eye. And then he directly looks at her.

And then, instead of going out to check on the old woman on the floor, he closes the door.

What happens after that we don’t see.

3759

Did you see the six minute video though? Not going to give you shit, but it makes the initial assumptions about what that man is doing and why he is doing it seem… different. For all he knows, she tripped and fell.

3760

Okay, you have a point. I haven’t. I will search for the full video.

3761

The New York Times had it if you haven’t hit your limit yet. I am not sure anyone else has the full video, yet.

3762

I gave them a bullshit email a while ago. So I will check.

3763

Okay. Saw the full video. Guy sees the woman kicked to the floor and watches assailant kick her several times. Then another guy closes the door. This raises more questions than it answers.

Is he a delivery guy? Is they guy that closes the door working for the building and closing the door for no reason?

I dunno. I don’t have enough information to make a call.

3764

I don’t think the guy with the… luggage? is actually a security guard. I think he is the only one that we can see that actually saw that happen. I think it’s the two guys who were literally in the hall to the side and not there to see the attack that got sacked. And the one that closed the door, he may have realized there was as problem after he closed the door because he definitely see what happened. In the end, they went out and helped her and all this took place in less than six minutes.

The one unloading stuff might not even be an employee… could be a vendor of some kind.

I think the 6 minute video shows a lot more context then the 26 second one does which kind of makes you think the one guy was just watching the whole time and then shut the door which is… not what happened.

3765

Honestly? I give up. I used to be a security guard back when that wasn’t an insult. :)

We had these training films where they would run them and then freeze the film. Then they asked us what we saw. I was pretty good at them. But I was like 20 years old.

Now? I am probably wrong.

3766

I thought it was elevator work or maybe a bouncer or am I misremembering? You’ve got like a 100 cool stories you’ve shared around here, and I think we all know there are more than enough left we have not been told for you to write a book (which you totally ought to do).

3767

Wait until he gets to the astronaut stories!

3768

I’ve had a lot of jobs. I seem to be bad at working.

3769

I drove an ice-cream truck for a summer. Lots of interesting jobs just add to the flavor Rich!

3770

I think we need a previous jobs that might be interesting thread!

3771

Oh I bet that would be a hoot if only for the @RichVR stories. Plus I’m sure we all have some good stories of minimum-wage jobs at teenagers.

3772

Things you can never unsee?

The amply sized woman trying on underwear in the middle of the aisle at the dollar store.

Or the time the toilets… well I discovered something was wrong from the middle of aisle 12.