David Glosser on the hypocrisy of his asshole nephew Stephen Miller. And also, and more importantly, why the US must not give up on immigration.
I have met Central Americans fleeing corrupt governments, violence and criminal extortion; a Yemeni woman unable to return to her war-ravaged home country and fearing sexual mutilation if she goes back to her Saudi husband; and an escaped kidnap-bride from central Asia.
President Trump wants to make us believe that these desperate migrants are an existential threat to the United States; the most powerful nation in world history and a nation made strong by immigrants. Trump and my nephew both know their immigrant and refugee roots. Yet, they repeat the insults and false accusations of earlier generations against these refugees to make them seem less than human.
Timex
1894
What needs to be established is exactly why a lawyer working for ice would actually break the law to try and deport a random guy he didn’t even know.
That suggests either a profound hated of immigrants, to try and prevent them from starting no matter what the law says, or an institutional motivation for ice lawyers to achieve certain ends in terms of quotas or something.
And he should be disbarred, and prosecuted for felony fraud, in addition to anything else, and be personally liable for legal fees and restitution.
Nesrie
1896
I assume they are reviewing his other cases… right?
ShivaX
1897
Well, at least we know who will replace Sessions.
In many places in the country farm worker wages have risen to $20/hour, but the country is still chronicly short.
I’ve mentioned before that we have an impossible task getting native American to do the work. Turns out this has been a problem for a very long time.
Turns out, people want high wages to do crappy jobs. Surprise surprise.
And not crappy work conditions.
Enidigm
1903
TBH i have to wonder how much of this problem is discoverability. Are they “trying” to find workers or are they trying, because i’ve not seen a single advertisement for farm workers ever.
Low income people are the least likely to be able to move around, and are probably the least connected to social networks that they need to help support them move around.
What that industry needs are essentially human bees; just like apiarists move bees around across the country on contract, what that industry needs are companies that move workers around the country in mobile “work camps” (RVs, trailers, whatever) following the harvest.
“We” (ie, the West) used to have harvesters and gleaners but those “positions” more or less died out with mechanization.
People have been flooding the oil field to do hard labor for similar hourly wages, and you’re talking about ditch digging sort of jobs, by no means easy living. But everyone knows the oil industry is going through a boom. I don’t think this is an unsolvable problem.
Hell, maybe i should start a farmhand service company.
Exactly. In the Red River Valley (the Red River of the North, not the Texas one) as recently as the '90s it was very common for migrant farm workers to labor in sugar beet fields during certain times of year. Other times they’d be to the south - due to different growing seasons, different latitudes reach peak work requirements at different times of year.
Migrant farm workers have a 100+ year history. If you go back far enough (generations to the late 1800s), white people would work as migrant workers - many of them white immigrants or first generation children of immigrants. But during living memory most migrants in my region came from Mexico. Some were US citizens but even then mostly from the southern US with Latino backgrounds. I’m sure the farmers and foremen hiring migrants always dutifully filled out all the paperwork proving work status.
There’s not as many migrants now. My understanding is their work (thinning out the sugar beet crop and such) is now mostly done by machines. And some put down roots in the area and have lived in the region for decades with more regular and long term jobs, thus leaving the migrant worker pool.
For most people, it’ll take a lot of money to get them to accept the nomadic lifestyle and working conditions of migrant farm labor. That’s why immigrants were used - they’ll work for lower wages.
ShivaX
1905
They also have no roots to worry about most of the time.
KevinC
1907
That’s it, I can’t do this timeline anymore.