3938

Not really. The only way to do it to the middle class without a severe recession or collapse of the system would be to empower and reword real wealth creation. I’m all for impoverishing myself if that’s on the table, but it’s not, and it’s not going to.

3939

This is true, but the spirit of Craig’s statement still holds, given that the top 10% of earners own 70% of stocks, and the bottom 60% of earners hold only 7% of stocks. So while it’s technically true that a majority of people own stocks and wealth, the values are so small that they aren’t generating wealth at the same scale as the tiny minority, and a wealth tax won’t meaningfully affect them.

3940

ya, that’s what I meant in that first sentence. You could have some kind of floor where smaller gains aren’t taxed.

I still think it’s not likely this would happen, and I kind of think that there are major problems with doing it (as we’ve discussed in the past), but I don’t think the rationale that we’d have to tax everyone is correct.

3941

I would rather ban the stock market and nationalize capital flows, so let’s start there.

3942

Definitely. Musk is just Musking here, saying something dumb and thinking he really pulled a gotcha on the libs.

3943

I mean, the joke is, Elon Musk doesn’t pay taxes like you do. So his comment is accidentally based, as the twitter people would say.

3944

A restaurant called Smoke Shop in Kendall (near MIT) now has robots waiting tables. So… here we go!

3945

That’s going to scale well. Down the road might want to modify the menu to attract a new clientele and add electricity or WD-40.

3946
3947

So, what’s your take on all this @ShivaX? Good, Bad, indifferent? Is this a true story? Are these lies? Was anyone able to confirm anything?
Who watches the Watcher?

3948

Doordash themselves confirmed it. They blamed the intermediate (drzly or something?) For pocketing the tip.

3949

Why is there an intermediate? We need more people sticking their hands in the pockets of the restaurants and drivers?

3950

Looking great for Drizly.

Doordash comes off better.

Edit: If I’m reading it right the place that the kid was delivering from lied about the tip amount and then sent it to Doordash. Or Drizy did it. Someone pocketed $15 and never told someone else down the chain. Now why you need so many people? No idea. I assume there is a reason for it that makes sense to everyone involved.

3951

Ok, I looked it up, apparently Drizly does age verification for deliveries of alcohol. So I guess that’s something.

Still, it sounds like all this software is badly designed and implemented, and the people who did it should be ashamed of themselves. There shouldn’t be any place in the system where a person can move the money out of the tip and into their own pocket. That’s crazy.

3952

I’ve noticed there are services/sites/apps that offer “online ordering” with hosting of a webpage with menus and prices and web apps to process the order and the payment. When I use google maps to search for restaurants it often links me to sites like that. In theory that’s a completely separate service than the delivery service provided by door dash. I’ve never used doordash so I don’t know if they host their own menu/ordering setup. I can see a division between drzly and doordash but also some duplication.

I wonder how much of this division/duplication is due to efficiency/specialization versus contractual issues. For example if a restaurant already has a contract for online ordering with a company like drzly and then doordash becomes a thing during the pandemic, how do those contracts interact? Everybody wants exclusivity…. Maybe that’s how you end up with this kind of clusterfuck.

Last comment - I bet whoever stole the tip intended to steal the $4 and leave the $15.59 for the deliverer but screwed up the math. I say this under the theory of “pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered” - if they had stolen the smaller amount no one would have noticed imo - that shit is endemic.

3953

Sounds like it is in fact very well designed, just not for the driver!

3954

I bet you’re wrong because humans are greedy and stupid

3955

Just pick up your food yourself and you don’t have to tip anyone!

3956

Aren’t most of these largish food delivery services basically ripping off the restaurants they serve?

Edit for info on how they charge:

  • DoorDash Basic: 15% commission fees for restaurant operators, customers receive higher fees instead to offset the cost savings (ranging from $2.99-$4.99 extra, depending on area). Restaurants can still opt into in-app marketing promotions. Delivery radius is also smaller to ensure that Dashers receive fair payment.
  • DoorDash Plus: 25% commission fees for restaurant operators. Restaurants also receive access to DashPass premium membership customers. Operators at this level and above will also receive more visibility on the DoorDash app to customers.
  • DoorDash Premium: 30% commission fees for restaurant operators and access to DashPass customers. Offering the lowest customer fees and largest delivery radius. Premium membership also comes with a guarantee: any Premium members that receive fewer than 20 orders monthly across all DoorDash platforms will receive a refund for their entire commission.

https://www.restaurant-hospitality.com/delivery-takeout-solutions/new-doordash-pricing-tiers-offer-commission-rates-starting-15

3957

This is why I don’t use these services, and why whenever I do a restaraunt, I pay with cash.

I figure with cash there’s less chance of a tip being pocketed/stolen. Also knowing the margins are slim with restaraunts, saving them the 1% card fee matters.