Ok, so we’re all agreed then, Republicanism = Racism.
So, what do people think about this Jeff Bezos guy? I’d compare Bezos/Amazon to the team that did the Witcher series of video games. The basic idea wasn’t brilliance, like it didn’t take a genius to decide to make a series of CRPGs when they did. However they do deserve a lot of credit for their execution on the idea. The CEO of the company deserves part of the credit, but you also have to recognize all the programmers and artists who worked themselves into early health problems in order to make the idea into reality.
It turns out, the discussion was continued on the other thread after all.
If it wasn’t those programmers and artists, it would have been someone else.
Sure, but that doesn’t mean the work shouldn’t be fairly compensated. But I get it, CEO’s are the new Feudal Lord of the 21st century.
I think he might have been making a joke? If so I welcome this new, kinder, gentler, Andy_Bates.
Oh. Sorry. Welcome @Andy_Bates . I am so glad you have seen the the light!
One of us! One of us!
Jokey but definitely the best take on this so far
Yes it was definitely a joke…or tongue-in-cheek at the very least. Plus I agree with Nesrie on this point, so who knows? All bets are off!
I was replying to Rothda’s Witcher analogy
I was replying to Rothda’s comment that he thought I was making a joke.
KWhit
1899
I hope so, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
There are Health ramifications:
JonRowe
1901
And people think Millennial burnout isn’t a thing.
CraigM
1902
In 1989 my dad was 28, had been married for 6 years, and I was 5. He had bought his second house after selling the first, were in a single income house, had a 4 bedroom ranch style house on half an acre in the Chicago suburbs. And he was making the same money I was at 28, without adjusting for inflation, with no college degree when i had one. His only debt was the mortgage, which was less than 150k.
I, at that age, was just married and both my wife and I worked, lived in a small two bedroom apartment, and I had still some 20,00 in student loan debt. And I was having to work 60+ hour work weeks to make the same in actual dollars my dad did in 1989.
Yeah, anyone who wants to blame our generation can fuck right off.
Yeah, but to be fair, when Biden was a kid he had to walk to school every day. And not just some leisurely stroll in the park. He had to trudge uphill the whole way, in both directions.
Nesrie
1905
I had a gentleman in my house today, a general contractor, very nice guy whom I am going to use again when possible chat with me while he was working, his choice. He said in 70s he was a young guy who had just joined a union. The min. wage was around $3.50 but working in the union got you $18.50 without a degree. Everyone wanted to do it, so you were really lucky to get into union, you needed to do a proper job and learn or else someone else would be quick to replace you.
Today, he says he loves his wife, but she couldn’t put together a bird house, would have no problem getting a license. and people like me are surprised when he not only shows up on time or calls if he is running late, but the kind of things he sees because one guy taught this guy who taught this guy who all wound up doing it wrong is just not ever corrected and the wages are not even in the same category even if people will talk about how much they make like it’s a good thing. He also said when he was making 18.50, he was paying 100 / mo for an apartment. Apartments like he described are probably 1k around here now.
Listening to this guy, whom I have never met, but heard I had an issue with my kitchen and showed up the next day to address made me feel little better about humanity for a minute. Oh yeah, he built his son a 6,000 sqft house up on the hills (around here the higher you go generally the more expensive it is… the view!), so he seems pleased with how things went but he’s disappointed for some others.
Also, apparently he met Will Smith. It was cute he wanted tell me that while we were talking about traveling to big cities.
I’m two years older than you, dad. The only way I could afford a house on my engineer’s salary and student loans was team up with a college roommate, and I felt lucky to swing it. Since very few of my 25 -30 years old co-workers had houses unless they were married to a professional. It typically required three salaries for techs and secretaries to buy a home in the Bay Area.
But we can exchange anecdata forever. Nationwide homeownership is up modestly from 1990 about 1%. It is actually very stable 60-65%. But more importantly, houses (and cars) are lot better now. Median house size is up 800+ feet from 1989, and the average square foot per person isnearly double. So yes it should be more of struggle to afford a new house or new car.
CraigM
1907
I mean we didn’t ask for that, we didn’t drive that change. And my generation doesn’t benefit from that either.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fNaqh1rPtY0/WzT2LjHppmI/AAAAAAAAJBs/CSCXORIOTTEzFObaxKhjMOw4Jk1CK8UaQCLcBGAs/s1600/home%2Bownership%2B1.jpg
Why should we care homes are bigger now when, broadly, we can’t buy them? This trend simply means that older generations are replacing traditional starter homes that they used to build equity, and cutting the ladder out behind them.
