What does that even MEAN? The majority of Americans seem pretty unhappy with the president and the war.[/quote]
As evidenced by the strong, general, populist uprising calling for the president to change things, yes?
Except for the part where people’s opinions are actually changing, even if the DC insiders keep pretending that their beloved president isn’t wildly unpopular.
Evidence? (And see above.)
[quote]I think politics probably left the realm of being guided by firmly-held passions a long, long time ago, whether for good or ill.
But here’s where we agree. The point is that the left needs to take a principled stand, and I think it’s happening. It’s never going to be “everyone”, and it doesn’t have to be to be effective.[/quote]
Everytime I hear something like this I can’t help but be reminded of “Primary Colors”. Yes, a principled stand is a good thing. But an effective stand is far better. I’m fairly unconvinced that the former naturally leads to the latter, no matter how well you may argue your point or how fervently you may believe it. I think taking a stand on principle is all well and good, but acting expediently in a manner that moves towards that principle is likely to be more effective.
[quote]If you want to shut down gitmo, quit using the “Oh my god, look how barbaric we are!” lines, and start using the “You do know that if we keep putting forth this face to the world, any possible benefit that information gained might provide is going to be offset by the 10x as many willing terrorists lining up due to the ‘evidence’ of our contempt for their part of the world.”
Zzzzz… snork, wha? I’m sorry, I started falling asleep after “you do know that…” Can you repackage that for me as a sound bite?[/quote]
“The more we mistreat them, the more they’ll want to attack us.”
That should be photogenic enough I think. :P
[quote]The American people don’t care whether or not we truly have contempt, they just want to be told what’s going to be best for them and then have that acted upon.
The “American People” don’t anything.[/quote]
Except disagree with the liberal candidate enough to vote Bush for four more years, you mean?
Sorry, you’re wrong. There is an aggregate will. It begins at the individual level, but it also has a life of its own. Democrats used to understand that; these days I don’t know that they do any longer. Or at least not the ones in power (some others here and there seem to still).