1721

I updated my ‘basic setup’ with spacing ‘.’ to show things better; the spaces didn’t work for some reason.

also, i wasn’t entirely accurate; basic/advanced processors can hold one set of materials ‘in production’ and another set buffered. but there’s some odd bugs where materials (especially P3/4) are being lost that may be due to downtime or syncing of certain cycles currently, so some of these tricks may change as CCP fixes PI (especially the launchpad/storage distinction).

You cannot route any PI materials directly from storage to storage without paying isk with a manual expidited transfer, which is why I just use the one large launchpad for all storage currently (future patches may break this, of course; it is CCP we’re talking about).

YOU DO NOT NEED TO CONNECT YOUR COMMAND CENTER TO ANY OTHER BUILDING. This can save some of grid. Make a launchpad your central structure instead. 20x the storage, cheaper export rates as well afaik.

still, the point remains that you can’t buffer up huge volumes of materials with 30 min/5 hour cycles when you have time to do so. Note that you may have to upgrade those links to handle running all the extractors on the faster cycles.

1722

Actually you can. Just route all the extractors to storage, and then route the materials to your processors. It only seems to send material when the processor needs it and anything else just builds up in storage. This may take a bit more planning to do.

1723


By scout_ at 2010-06-28

Check the amount of killed NPC ships, my corp started around 20:00 (I guess, cause I was late) I came in 21:00 (all my local time) and ended 1:30 and we did a total of 40+sites and about 7 mag/radar sites in that wormhole. We didnt even managed to do em all, as we left 9 combat sites since we all we’re falling apart.

I seriously need to recruit in the US east timezone. We have two casual players playing around that time but that’s not enough to keep a strong presence and do sites in cl3s :D .

1724

How much did that earn you, scout? A buddy and I are dipping our toes into the Wormhole game.

1725

We do always equal shares on the blue loot, while the corp gains all salvage and hacking stuff for our production. This fund is to support ship looses (full in PvE and PvP) as well POS fuel usage and “future invest”.

We were about 7 person and made a 1.6 Bil in total, but we were becoming substantial slower over the evening :D.

BTW that was “only” a class 3.

WH becomes really profitable if you can maintain a good presence there for a while, closing and opening wormholes till you find what you are looking for.
E.g.:
http://treci.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6977190

That is our biggest single loss we ever had.
The trick to that is, that apart from the Hurricane nothing really belonged to us before it went into the hold of the Hurricane.

One of my corp members found four POS, one inactive but with “just” an iteron V and a shipmain bay, corp hangar and some other modules all offline.

The other four POSes were active, there was even one player floating around, as well as a thanataos and another carrier (forgot which one).

So we initally just wanted to steal the iteron V and blow up everything we could.
Pop out a domi, ishkur, ishtar, moa and other stuff, gas, mins, salvage, drugs, blueprints, … We grabbed like three full hauls using that stolen iteron, a hoarder as well and apart from the moa everything we could before that gang showed up. The hurricane evenmanaged to kill the dictor who put the bubble up and brought the phoon deep into hull before his gang mates showed up.

I think we made close to a bil with stolen good :D and it would have been definitly above if we could have gotten D out with his stuff in his hold.

I’m looking for some US east time ppl who would be interested, we are currently offering this:
http://www.eve-ivy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=30193&sid=d124ca0d99c5eedc191eaee1fd344443 on the uni to gain some more visibility on the Uni.

If you are interested in a casual but dedicated corporation in both empire and wormhole operations send Damien Anders a convo/eve mail .

1726

I just picked up EVE via the sale from steam. I am hitting the learning skills hard.

1727

… which is a good thing to do know if you alraedy know that you’re like the game.
Otherwise I’d suggest only doing the “short” learning skills (taking less than a couple of hours) and focus on those profession agent offered skills.

They will bring you up to “something fun” far faster rather than just knowing “I can do this skill in 25 rather than 40minsbut I have to wait 10”.

Especially have a look at this article at massively:

http://www.massively.com/2010/06/27/eve-evolved-the-game-doesnt-really-start-until/

It’s really better to say “Im still in the game after two years although I missed like 3months worth of training since I didnt do learning skills” than “I sticked with Eve for a week because its soo boring since all I did was waiting to learn skills to learn skills to learn modules I wanted to use”.

Also, never mind the long queue, have a look at the Ivy League/ Eve University.

1728

I didn’t see Lorini again after Saturday. I’m wondering if she made it through the queue for Eve Uni as well. Antifood, what’s your in-game name?

Scout that’s some serious moola for that WH work. You guys did well.

1729

That is exactly what I thought I suggested to do; what did I mistype, I’m not seeing it.

Rather than direct any material from an extractor directly to a factory, i said to send the product to a storage first. from an extractor, from a basic or advanced factory; always route to and from the storage (launchpad) to prevent loss of materials.

but you cannot send from storage/launchpad A to storage/launchpad B via routing, so if you have multiple storage/launchpads plan ahead how you route things.

1730

Someday ill have to join some WH corp, it always sounds very exciting to do.

1731

Scout, great article. I appreciate it. My Eve handle is antifood.

1732

I didn’t make it through the queue yet, but I did get my Catalyst put together and the skills learned. How much insurance? I’m kind of regretting the insurance I put on the Tristan since I moved out of it so fast.

1733

If you need some isk just let us know.

1734

Woot! New ship day! I wonder what this PI ship will be like. I also wonder what LoK will do with his. It also looks like the skill point reallocation went through today as well.

1735

I do not recommend blindly piling on the learning skills from the start. Grab EVEMon, plan to what you want to get, and let it optimize your attributes and skill path. It’s not a big deal if it throws some expensive learning skills at the beginning, you won’t lose that much by picking those up later on when you can afford them.

1736

Just got back into this yesterday. God this game is insanely overcomplex. I feel like even if I played it 24/7 I would be overwhelmed :(

1737

I have no idea what I want to do, but when I figure it out what works for me as a casual player, I will check out evemon. Thanks for the heads up!

1738

Depending on what race you are, you should probably head for a Frigate for level 1 missions, a Cruiser for level 2, and then a Battlecruiser in the medium term. For Caldari, that would be a Kestrel, then a Caracal, and then a Drake. Really, given how early in the game you are, that ship path would probably be ideal anyway. After you’ve got the Battlecruiser you can think about what you want to specialize in, and you’ll know enough about the game to have some idea of where to go.

1739

I still have no idea how you know the level of the missions.

1740

It’s listed by the agent. There are 5 levels of agents, each with a quality from -20 to +20. When you’re looking at an agent in station, under the name it’ll say something like “L:II Q-4”, which would be a Level 2 agent with a quality of -4. Every certain number of missions you do (I think it’s 16, can’t recall) you get a “storyline” mission, which will raise your standings with that particular corporation. As you increase your standings with an NPC corporation, you get access to higher qualities of agents, and then higher levels of agents.

If you go to the Map you can see what agents you currently you have access to: in the World Map Control Panel click on the Star Map tab, and in the Stars tab under that go to the My Information folder and select My Available Agents. This will highlight each star with varying shades of green depending on how many agents are available to you, and if you hold your mouse over a particular system a tooltip will appear showing what agents are available.

It’s good to do missions just to get used to EVE, but I wouldn’t recommend really grinding missions until you get into a good corporation. This is because when you raise your standings it’s only with a certain NPC corporation, and that corporation may not be present where a player corp you join is, so you won’t be able to do the higher level missions there until you raise standings with the NPC corp that’s in that area.