JM1
1761
Yeah, the tank isn’t the best, but that’s partly due to the problems inherent in going up a ship class without having the support skills to go with it. Anyone flying a Harbinger, for example, without having good skills is going to get it all blown up as it’s a big ole sig radius. Good DPS but it can’t tank like a BS, but it gets nearly as hard as one.
Mitya
1762
Quick tip, though it won’t come in handy for a while. Don’t bother with level 3 missions, just do level 2s until you can do 4s. The increase in income with 3s isn’t worth the time they take to do (at least solo)
Up to you, drake is a nice mission boat but by the time you fly it efficiently, you would also be ready for another BC from a different race which would be more versatile.
my recommendation would be to go with gallente, fun to fly and the drones provide some of the damage diversity desirable for PvE whilst remaining a solid base for PvP.
Myrm/brutix are fun PvP boats (and fairly cheap), mega is nice as well, ranis is pretty sweet and Nyx are FOTM! (joking, don’t think about a MOM for now)
in any case, you can debate for hours what is “best” in eve but IMHO, going caldari does pigeon-hole you more into a PvE career than any other race and will severely gimp your medium-term ability to pvp efficiently.
The above is coming from somebody who only flew caldari for a while and found himself fairly limited (Ewar or nothing) when looking at PvP
Thanks guys, I’ll stay with the Gallant path. Skipper, thank you so much for the 50 million donation! I greatly appreciate it, hopefully I can assist you sometime soon!
Also the myrmidon is vertical.
_scout
1766
JM1
1767
FYI, the patch broke autopilot. “Prefer safer” is now “shortest”. Enjoy lowsec, people!
Lorini
1768
Um, 50 million donations are being handed out?! Sign me up!! :) :)
Woah! I can confirm I am the poorest long time player of this game.
Just earlier today I had 3 million isk, and only about 400 mil in assets!
also: just remember: if you turn the myrmidon sideways- it has Horizontal symmetry. and everyone hates drakes always. and now probably tengus.
I am buying all kinds of training books and gear for my Vexor!
I’m pure PVP(*), and I started out Caldari.
Caldari gets you some great EWAR, and the Manticore, Drake, Raven, and Scorpion are all good PvP ships.
The drawback is that you will have to cross-train into guns for other ships later. I will note that agressive enough cross-training and it doesn’t look like you went down weird skill paths for no reason.
To start out, the single most effective cheap ship in the game is the Rifter (Minmatar frigate), and Rifter -> Thrasher -> Stabber-> Hurricane is an excellent path for PvP.
(*) Well, other than my little PI projects on the down-low.
They need to flip the catalyst so its vertical too.
JM1
1773
No, no, no! The flying wing is cool.
Actually, whenever someone flies a catalyst all i see is 16 guns floating in space.
I see a ransom.
“You can’t run, you can’t shoot your guns, and even if you could shoot your guns they can’t hit me.”
Scram, Web, Neut, TD.
Or, alternatively, a Rifter hugging inside their tracking. Either works.
I meant the catalyst graphics are bugged.
Dont try to act like you are a tough pirate dave, we all know you are a carebear now.
I’m sorry, I was replying straight to.
That you can in fact buffer up large volumes of materials, and if you do you might be able to take out an extractor and put in an extra processor if you can maintain a buffer like that. The 2 5 hours cycles per day thing follows a similar theory.
dwolfe
1778
My recommendation is to explore the battlecruisers (Drake and Hurricane are in my dock, but as i have about 2 mil isk to my name, i won’t be getting more for ages). I love, love, love how I can use all four race’s ships and their differences for the price of one skill. Plus they’re a good bit cheaper than BS’s.
Also, while leaping into larger ships seems like the clear upgrade path, it is not.
There’s the destroyer (between frigate and cruiser, rather bad for almost everything in the game currently), assault and heavy assault cruisers, command ships, covert ops for fighting ship skills. All are also general ship skills rather than racial-specific. Then there’s the tier-3 cruisers like the Loki and the Tengu.
To fly the advanced ship classes well takes pretty good support skills, but taking the time to try out each race’s frigate/cruiser/battlecruiser and learning what you like to fly is worth it.
Hrm, that seems out of context, I must have forgotten part. You cannot buffer up large volumes of P0 materials unless your extractors feed a launchpad or supply depot. If they feed directly into your basic factories, you have one cycle’s worth of buffer at most.
_scout
1779
It depends on you’re personal aims in game (hello sandbox) but trying the different racial ships will certain give you a good feeling of the many possibilities you have in game (hello sandbox! ;) ).
As the most “common” ISK income for newer players who don’t jump right into PvP is access to mission skilling up into a BS to support their ingame adventures going that way and then branching into the other races ships is actually ensuring the ability to buy all those shiny toys.
At that point branching into the other races ships is actually a very good idea, though Im hesitant to suggest that too early.
In my experience there a few stages/plateau where eve tends to get dull and ppl start to quit, which have different orgins partially tied to the sandbox thing.
1.) doing the learning skills grind to excessivly, because you just wait to learn skills to learn skills to learn skills and you just cant do anything while waiting.
2.) after doing the tutorials/profession mission/epic arc, cause then you’ll have to aim for your own goals and find your own way to achieve em
3.) after reaching a good lvl4 capable BS, because that one is only grinding for ISK and without goals you dont need that anyway
4.) setting yoursellf the aim to “have x amount of ISK and skills before I can start doing y”, with y being mostly PvP
5.) after sailing alone to long, waiting for the big stuff. Big stuff only happens in a corp together with other players, its a MMO for reason
JM1
1780
Bugged how? The game’s always put a pair of guns on the model per gun fitted.
Dave is dropping his standards if he’s bragging about ransoming destroyers ;)
