News reporters saying that facts matter! What world is this?!
For Buttigieg, I’d argue a lack of experience in high office is a definite concern. Not that it’s an absolute necessity to have been a governor, VP, senator, etc., but experience can only help and by extension inexperience only hinder.
He has more experience then Obama though.
At least as an executive. Obama was a 2 year senator. Did he spend any time in the state house?
Executive but not legislative, I think? Also con law professor goes into the qualifications bag IMO.
Yeah he did, not sure how long.
Yeah, executive experience isn’t something I value too highly, anymore; I mean … Trump.
Trump had no executive experience. None. Even on the business side, his company had few actual employees.
You can’t swap Government and Business experience. They are so totally different.
I don’t think we’re arguing too much. However, my point is that—purely from my perspective—the executive experience of a mayor is pretty insignificant to the experience of a US Senator when applying for the job of President. Please don’t take this to mean I wouldn’t vote for Buttigieg, but I recognize it as a very real concern and a weakness in his candidacy.
Timex
2040
By all accounts, Trump never had a successful track record as an executive of anything.
His total failures as an executive are ultimately directly tired to his gross failures that we are seeing today. It’s why he’s surrounded by incompetents, makes bad decisions, and is driven by base emotions rather than information.
Never said successful, lol
I love the image!
The biggest issues I have with him are his age and the general idea that a small city mayor is not, in my opinion, great preparation for dealing with national and international issues. Neither is a huge deal but I do feel they are negatives.
McSweeny’s is satire. And hilarious. But there’s definitely some truth there (as in all the best satire). Warren would never get asked what her favorite Radiohead album is.
And @Gordon_Cameron, yes, he’s more direct than literally any Republican, but that’s literally the lowest bar possible to clear. You’ve not seen him dodge a question? He is obviously very intelligent, and that shows. But he absolutely has a rep for not having actual positions, much less policy proposals. He’s triangulating, pretty much constantly, from what I’ve seen.
Here’s the Daily Show clip from the other night at the CNN Town Hall (his segment starts at 4:18). It isn’t out of context.
The question: “your campaign website has a lot about who you are, what you believe in, but nothing about policy. Like, nothing.”
The answer: (they snipped a bit about his “ask pete” website, iirc) “we’ll continue to roll out specific policy proposals, too, but I feel is also important to not drown people in minutia before we’ve vindicated the values that animate our policies”.
I actually like his age, though. Yes experience can be an advantage (see: Pelosi right now), but someone younger and invested in the long view (because he’s going to be around to see it) is also good.
Tim_N
2044
Having worked in consulting for a few years I think the biggest disqualifying mark against Pete is his stint at McKinsey.
KevinC
2045
I’m not familiar at all with the site, so wasn’t aware of that. Don’t they know that satire died in 2016?
His record as a mayor in South Bend appears to be, at best, mixed. He has a reputation as a remote technocrat. Someone good at mining data and reading reports, less good at building relationships with constituencies. I think it’s not surprising that he’s not lighting up minority voters eyes, without whom Democrats can’t win.
Also, an incredibly smart, educated at Harvard and Oxford and apparently politically ambitious in the womb, and he went to work for McKinskey? Jesus Christ, man.
Timex
2047
He won reelection with 78% of the vote, so it seems like he’s probably doing a pretty good job.
Great. So he’ll have no trouble getting his old job back when his candidacy fizzles.
Yeah that was the gist of the article I also posted a week or two back, but it was dismissed because the dude who wrote it has the pretense of a British accent or something.
Like I said then. I’d vote for him if he was the choice. He isn’t the bottom of my list (that’d be Biden, probably, the major candidates), but he’s nowhere near my top.
Timex
2050
But it would tend to dispute the suggestion that his tenure as mayor has been, as you said, “at best, mixed.”
Generally if you are doing a mediocre job, you don’t get 78% of the vote when you run for reelection. So maybe that belief isn’t that accurate.
Not so far, but I haven’t seen that much of him. Honestly I liked how he directly came at the inmates-voting question. He just stated an opinion and made a case for it. As opposed to the old “well, we need to have that conversation” yada yada.