I think Biden is the key holdout, right? Most all the rest are for some sort of federal legalization.
I and I be all for babylon no longer droppin no hammer on Mary Janes’ pretty 'ead mon.
Timex
2674
You mean that you want legalization of MJ, right? Just clarifying, as the phrasing here is a bit confusing.
The reality is that if the Dems hold the House, win the White House and miraculously win the Senate, then we will likely get the legislation that appeals to the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. In that sense, all the various climate plans (and other plans) of the candidates are more about signaling where they are philosophically than anything else.
To me, this means that some kind of aggressive health care plan might pass (e.g. Joe Manchin has a lot of constituents that would benefit from Medicare for all and/or Medicaid that reaches further), but an aggressive climate plan has very little chance (e.g. Joe Manchin has a lot of constituents who will be against it for no good reason other than tradition).
Yes.
And sorry, I phrase everything in a confusing way. :/
BTW, I thought this was PB’s best moment of his town hall last night:
I’m still annoyed with her for not running in 2016. Should not have left it to Bernie.
Some people will never understand this. They think tariffs get magically absorbed by the countries or manufacturers. If they do get the idea that the costs will just get passed on to the consumers, they still prefer the tariff because it only “taxes” the people that buy it - it’s “voluntary” and directly goes towards the item they’re buying - as opposed to going to the big bad government to fund liberal deep state policies.
In other words it’s paid by people who spend their money, not save it. So it’s regressive. Which is also a selling point for the rich.
fundamentally trump has never understood the concept of an actual win-win deal, which free trade really is. If I can make bananas better than you, and you can make iphones better than me, then when we trade we are BOTH better off. Trump thinks of winners or losers, the idea of trade benefiting both breaks his brain.
Timex
2682
And this is the fundamental basis upon which the very notion of trade itself is built. A buyer and seller agree on a price which is lower than the buyer’s perceived value, and higher than the seller’s. Trade only works because both sides are benefiting.
Trump perceives everything through the lens of a bully, or con-man, where all benefit is achieved through force or deception.
Don’t blame Warren. Hillary had it in the bag, Hillary was the most qualified, Hillary was the Chosen One.
Hillary made a calculated decision that she could win the Presidency with an unknown VP in Kaine. Had she picked Warren instead, I’m sure she would have won.
If only she hadn’t won a majority of the the votes in the wrong states.
She campaigned a lot in wrong states.
When the other guy is Donald Trump, and people actually voted for him, it tells you something about the American Electorate. We are an awful country for electing him, and it will take us a long time to live that fact down.
Nothing can excuse what happened or why anyone voted for Trump. Not how Hillary campaigned in the wrong states, not how she was mean to Bernie or Bernie was mean to her. Not how the DNC was in favor of someone that was actually a member of the Democratic Party.
Every person that voted for Donald Trump is awful and we are all awful for letting him win. We are all responsible.
This is an excellent one sentence summary of Trumpism.
Menzo
2690
If I had one wish, I’d use it to wish for more wishes. But if that wasn’t possible, I’d use the wish to wish that we didn’t turn this thread into another thread about why Clinton lost the election.
Tim_N
2691
You’re thinking about a country as a single agent. Free trade can benefit both countries on average (I don’t think I would be allowed to call myself an economist if I believed otherwise), but there will always be winners and losers in each country. For that reason, protectionism will always have at least some proponents in a democracy. In this case, propaganda by Trump and the romantic notion that “America doesn’t make things anymore” gives it more attractiveness than should be the case.
