Since the majority of the electorate is over 40 (or 45? this is surprisingly hard to google just an overall age of all American voters, everywhere i look wants desperately to break down demographics into categories) you can’t help but see Biden appealing to that neoliberal fantasy again. Frankly if Bill Clinton and Tony Blair ran again in the shitshow of politics today they’d be swept in by the old people with rousing cheers. All this crossing of the isle crap from Biden really is a feature of the age - both the delusions of Biden and Trump reflect a kind of grasping onto the illusionary past by older people from both sides, unreflective and unapologetic. The problem is that there are still too many old people voting.
OTOH, when i read this sort of thing from Jezebel - a criticism from a Jezebel writer, presumably progressive and young, that dislikes Buttigieg and then decides to actually listen to him, so then listens to him for a couple weeks and thinks he’s basically good (her favorite thing he’s said is when he made a self depreciating domestic joke?), but still hates him anyway - it makes sense that default is going to be the best fault to have for Biden. Progressives are tired of politics as usual as well but also hate politics as well and are going to have a hard time accepting candidates that lack the 100% Twitter verified purity they expect and demand, less concerned about policy and more concerned about appearance.
And if progressives can’t solidify around a particular candidate Biden is going to fly through the primaries.
There’s not one Dem base, there are three bases, and this stuff only hurts you with the progressive base.
The white moderate base loves it, and the older black churchladies are loyal to a fault, and scared enough of Trump’s 2nd term that they’re convinced Biden is the best guarantee of that not happening.
If we want change, we’re going to have to start at the lower levels and work our way up the way AOC and Danica Roem are doing
This sounds like a Norm MacDonald Weekend Update joke. You can even imagine the pause in his voice before the punchline. “The Orlando Sentinel released its endorsement for the best presidential candidate for 2020. That presidential candidate? [pause] Not Donald Trump.”
More from Orlando… at least people are learning about Trump…
RichVR
3201
His deplorables left a mess of garbage in a field near the convention center. It’s going to cost thousands to clean up. The best people.
Only beta cucks clean up.
I bet the Deep State put that garbage there during the rally.
If DJT loses in 2020 he should just embark on a never ending geek show tour. His cultists will travel thousands of miles to attend each rally, and he can sell shitty overpriced t-shirts, hats, steaks, etc to the rubes. It would be the first profitable business venture he has ever undertaken.
Second most. First being the whole “becoming president” thing.
Fuckin worst timeline.
That was the original plan. Then he screwed it all up by winning.
Even Trump underestimated how stupid Americans can be.
Well, if he loses in 2020, he’s still eligible for another term, which provides the perfect excuse for a permanent campaign tour grift. So probably he will. Eventually Junior will inherit the grift, I guess.
Alstein
3210
I could see a scenario where he pulls a Cleveland and wins in 2024 if a recession hits in 2021 and the Dems can’t fix it fast (which is likely as stimulus ability has been weakened by Trump’s economic mismanagement)
I’d be cautious about overgeneralizing about groups, but especially allies. It is exactly the kind of thing that GOP operatives will be working overtime to encourage over the next 17 months. And we are rather vulnerable to this exploit because our tent includes groups of people who really do not have all that much in common with each other. (This is also true about the GOP tent, but the Dems do not have the same skill level of political operatives to exploit the differences between the Trump base and elites, and expect them to break apart on their own because principles.)
Anyway, our tent is united by a desire to get rid of Trump, so it should come as no surprise that perceived likelihood to beat Trump becomes an out-sized part of the selection process. Rather than attack people in our own tent, we ought to attack the perception that Biden is actually the most likely to win. Early polls have a terrible track record. Early polls of head-to-head have an even worse track record. When the electorate sees a guy in his late 70s up there on the stage next to Trump, it’s going to work against us. To run against Trump, a candidate needs charisma and self control, and Biden is 0 for 2. etc.
Our case needs to be “there are candidates more likely to win than Biden” not “there is something wrong with the people in our tent, or the people who might want to come into our tent.”
Biden’s not doing himself any favors here…
Timex
3213
Honestly, Biden’s statement was not bad at all. I’m no Biden fan, but the faux outrage over his comment is stupid bullshit.
Biden’s statement involved him picking an example of a person who was intentionally selected for his being a piece of shit segregationist. Biden implicitly selected him because he was a bad guy.
And then he said, “hey, even though this guy was a piece of shit, I still worked with him and got stuff done.”
That’s not a statement worthy of outrage. There is literally nothing wrong with it.
It’s being presented as bad, based purely on the ultra-superficial basis of “OMG SEGREGATIONIST!” Like, that’s literally the level at which you need to stop thinking for it to be an outrage.
What’s terrible is that it’s actually outraging people, because tons of people are so incredibly simple minded at this point that they have no capacity for thinking about anything at a level deeper than the absolute surface, where merely saying certain words is bad.
Yeah, I don’t love Biden, but all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
