It is. Perhaps he has a bigger appeal to those with more disposable income? And greater enthusiasm within his relatively small slice?
ShivaX
3558
People don’t think a gay man can be elected, so his polling is crap.
Yeah, Harris really made a big push forward.
Also, re health insurance. Yeah, I would have loved to keep my plan 5 years ago, but every year it gets worse. More costs for less coverage. I work for a very large US corporation, and I suspect a lot have people have noticed the recent shift in employee sponsored plans.
I think my company does a pretty good job considering, but I am rationing care in a way that I didn’t have to do 5 years ago.
It’s rich, isn’t it?
“We trashed our party. Can we have yours, please?”
Oh, that’s beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Timex
3563
I think you guys mistake the goals of folks like Tom Nicols and Rick Wilson.
They don’t want you to elect a republican… They don’t expect you to.
They just don’t want you to lose. Their goals have been, explicitly, for the GOP to lose, utterly. Their biggest goal is just to have the Democrats win.
Their suggestions are directed towards that end.
They certainly aren’t saying stuff like, “You need to nominate a moderate, or else I won’t support them!” because they’ve already said they will support LITERALLY ANYONE over Trump. That’s the camp I’m in. I will vote for the Democrats, across the board, despite not really agreeing with everything they stand for. They can nomintate undead zombie Lenin, and I’ll vote for him.
But at the same time, I worry that if you choose to go to the extreme left, even with my vote, you’re gonna lose.
(keep in mind here though, I do not think the answer is Biden)
Best part of the healthcare debate is when they switch healthcare to being tax payer funded, so all employers stop paying a share of healthcare insurance premiums, but then don’t actually raise wages, and save thousands of dollars per employee every year (i.e. profit thousands of dollars per employee more every year) while employees face an even heavier burden.
Free win for rich employers!
KevinC
3565
And to that I kind of have to agree with this part of the Op-Ed:
Banzai
3566
Then they should vote against Trump. Even if they have to hold their nose.
Or start a centrist third party.
Asking dems to compromise in order to make a centrist-right person feel comfortable voting dem instead of trump is quite the ask. If trump isn’t enough to make you vote for someone else, then the dems don’t really want your vote.
Timex
3567
Heh, but the problem that someone like Rick Wilson faced isn’t that he didn’t know how to win elections… The campaigns he worked on were successful.
Timex
3568
They will. That’s not the issue.
They are telling you the things they are, because they are afraid that you will nominate someone who will lose, even with their vote.
They aren’t asking you to make them feel comfortable. They just want you to win.
Yes, that’s certainly what they’ll do. At which point either we regulate wages, or we tax the shit out of them and give the proceeds to everyone else, or we break out the guillotines.
KevinC
3570
FWIW, I do believe they mean well in the sense that their primary goal is to avoid another four years of Trump, which Democrats share as well. They’re just not the people I’m going to go to for advice on who the Democrats should elect.
Terrible and tortured analogy, but it’s a little like someone who hates ice cream lecturing a company on how to make ice cream palatable. I understand that they don’t like ice cream, but changing up the formula so that it appeals to this person when millions of people love it maybe isn’t the best approach. It’s understandable if they don’t like it (not really, what kind of monster hates ice cream access to healthcare) but maybe they’re not really in a great position to be lecturing about it. Especially when they just ran their own competing business into the ground.
Well, he lost with Connie Mack for Senate. He lost with Giuliani for Senate. When did he win?
Edit: This is the guy who we should be listening to? They guy who tested attack ads against Hillary based on Bill’s infidelity? The guy who crafted the attack ads against quadriplegic veteran Max Cleland painting him as opposed to nationality security? They guy who made attack ads against Obama, painting him as a terrorist sympathizer?
https://ballotpedia.org/Rick_Wilson_(Florida)
CraigM
3572
Now I agree on the goal, get a dem elected, but the method is for debate.
One thing many of us have banged on about is that you need to give something for people to vote for, and that’s where the positions come from. Advocating for something, rather than continuation of the status quo. Be for correcting the problematic costs of healthcare being far more than anywhere else. Be for a livable environment.
It is not simply enough to say ‘I won’t make the depredations of the rich worse’, find a way to point to the real financial burdens of the day and propose solutions.
This is a good analogy. What they want is to turn the ice cream into something else, something else they like.
This is interesting to me as well. Presumably the gains made by Harris and Warren came at his expense as much as Biden’s?
I’ve been worried from the outset that Buttigieg would have trouble getting the black vote and that seems to be confirmed in thaa second poll.
Oh well, it’s early but the trend for him is not great. Fortunately, I really like Warren and Harris as well with a slight edge to Warren.
BTW, the biggest landmine of interest in that Iowa poll is this nugget culled by Nate Silver:
For non-Biden supporters, the number one issue they weren’t supporting him for was his age – not policy.
That is not good news for Sanders, either. And something for Warren to keep an eye on.
KevinC
3576
Interesting. From my perspective, Warren seems much younger. Much more energetic. I wonder if that’s strictly a me thing or if other voters have the same perception, and if they do if that has any impact on their concerns over age.
