Some banks made very bad investments that were responsible for the recession, but not all banks and certainly not the Federal Reserve.

Narrator: Today the Federal Reserve is the most powerful entity in the United States and they are not ashamed to admit it. Here is Alan Greenspan.

Greenspan: [does not say anything of the sort]

Ill respond to both here
https://forum.quartertothree.com/t/income-inequality/

Remember when people were actually worried about this moron? I’d even forgotten he was planning to run…

There was good reason to be worried. The election could be close, the last thing we need is splitting the anti-Trump vote.

Glad to see that no one else had an appetite for his candidacy either.

Agree to disagree then.

From a historical perspective, after having an election like 2016 with 5.7% voting third party, we typically see a huge regression afterward to the typical 1-2% third party vote capture in the following contest. Even a dummy with too much money like Howard Schultz was going to realize that he was throwing money down a well sooner than later.

Please don’t shit up a decent thread with crazy. Just make a new thread.

So you weren’t concerned about losing (potentially) 1-2% in Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, etc?

I agree Schultz had no chance of winning, but given that Trump is in office due to razor-thin victories in multiple states, his candidacy made me nervous.

Not really, because a 1.5% 3rd party vote doesn’t distribute to individual smaller states nearly the same way that a national 3rd party vote of 5.8% does.

Well, at least we can all agree not to worry about it now.

But I will continue to be paranoid about all the things that could derail us in 2020. The stakes are just that high.

And this is why the third party vote will be so low.

In 2016, many folks felt both candidates sucked so bad it didn’t matter who won.

Which I still find breathtaking, but anyway.

Lots of the people who voted 3rd party in 2016 will find ways to convince themselves that the 2020 Democratic nominee is even worse than Hillary.

Hush, you!

;-) / 2

Think it’s just as likely they turn on Trump. They already didn’t like him much or they would have voted for him.

Well that’s an interesting idea. I’d like to see the proposal, projections, numbers. I foresee a problem, but he’s not stupid, so we’ll see if he calculated it in. Also, Medicare isn’t that great as is nor is it free.

Was it just on my phone or were some of the words there in the audio suppressed vs what was in the subtitles?

“Medicare for all who want it” is a nice slogan but it’s nothing new, as I’m sure @Timex and most everyone else in this thread already knows. It’s just the public option that the Democrats failed to get into Obamacare, largely because Senators in the pocket of the big health insurers wouldn’t stand for it.

But it’s the reasonable next step.

Oh, I agree. Good on Mayor Pete for pushing the idea, and good on Sanders/Warren/etc for pushing single payer. I’m just reminding us all that neither is getting through Congress, not while big insurance has the lobbying power we’ve seen them display.