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And yet they preferred Tammy Baldwin, a woman, over Tommy Thompson, a man. And while Baldwin never faced a statewide primary, her opponent in 2018 was Leah Vukmir, another woman, who defeated Kevin Nicholson, a man.
So maybe they “viewed her as a woman” and it didn’t make a difference. In fact, you can explain all of these primary results if Wisconsinites prefer
a) the candidate with a local political HQ
b) the candidate with the most experience (if both have or do not have a local HQ)
c) the less progressive candidate (if both have equivalent experience)
The distance from Chicago to Milwaukee is about the same as Dover to Philadelphia. So when Biden inevitably wins Pennsylvania, will that also be because they prefer white men?
Your regular reminder that Warren was born in raised in Oklahoma. Midwesterners don’t consider OK to be part of the midwest (even under modern “sure, Kansas has historically been considered part of the west, but it’s flat and has corn fields, so into the midwest bucket it goes” rules.)
Tammy Baldwin ran unopposed in the primary, and probably not Wisconsans could stomach Tommy Thompson any more, after years of learning who he was.
And yet Ron Johnson endures.
Not sure what you mean here, but if you think I’m justifying it, that’s not my intent. But it is an explanation. If you’re in a position to influence the behavior of others and you encourage conflict instead of civility in order to gain either power or profit, then you’re a piece of shit.
Ah ok, I misinterpreted your intent. Completely agree with this sentiment.
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The midwest is Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Indiana
Oklahoma is a Great Plains state.
I grew up in Oklahoma, and largely I’d say it self-identifies as Southwestern, but it really depends on what part of the state. The NE quarter gets hilly and then mountainous close to the Ozarks, and feels Midwestern. The SE trends down to bayou country and feels Southern. The SW quarter is cow country and feels like Texas, and the NW quarter is oil and then badlands out into the panhandle, and feels like SW Colorado. So I never felt like the state had any overarching identity.
It is definitely Great Plains geographically, but other than growing a lot of wheat that never meant much.
The justification I’ve heard for keeping Iowa and NH in their roles as the gatekeeper is force the candidate to engage in retail politics, town halls and such. They can’t get away with just running lots of ads and making speeches to friendly crowd to get sound bites on TV.
That seems to be true in NH, where classic story about the NH voters, is network report ask NH voter what do you think about Candidate X and the voter says, “I don’t know yet I’ve only met him 3 times.”
The turn out for the Iowa caucus is pretty low, so I question the value of it, but NH I’m ok with.
The relevant question is, do they sip lattes in Oklahoma?
They sip arugula lattes in Oklahoma.
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Warren also ran unopposed in the Massachusetts Senate primary. The important thing is that they both won their general elections.
As for their opponents: Scott Brown was rapidly losing support. And Tommy Thompson was popular enough to win a three-way primary against two more conservative opponents.
But keep on moving those goalposts. There’s gotta be something else that makes Wisconsin look bad.
There are arguments for starting the primaries in smaller states so that there’s not a gigantic financial barrier to entry for lesser-known candidates. But there’s no particular reason those smaller states need to be Iowa and New Hampshire until the end of time. Why not Nebraska and Vermont every once in a while?
And the “let’s make things cheap” argument doesn’t apply to New Hampshire in particular. Because if you want to advertise to New Hampshire voters you end up advertising in … the Boston media market. Because most New Hampshire voters live in southern New Hampshire, in the Boston media market.
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Well, you said that Wisconsin prefers white males, not counting the black man who won a primary and general, not counting the Democratic woman who beat a white man, not counting the Republican woman who beat a white man, and not counting the race where both candidates were women.
But yeah, your favorite white female candidate is beating a white man by a smaller margin than two men. Must be prejudice.
Preferences are preferences, not laws of the universe, but you go ahead and try to score rhetorical points.
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I prefer to see evidence. But it’s true, your preference may differ.
