Jet

I played the hell out of their first record and the new one comes out October 3rd here in the States. The first single is GREAT and I can’t wait to hear more. The guitar work on the current version of the website sounds fantastic as well.


http://www.jettheband.com

They’re doing a club-size venue tour in September so look for them near you.

I liked Jet, but your taste in music has been at odds with mine far more often than anything you’ve ever said about games around here Dave. I don’t know what to think, my head asplode.

Great guitar sounds through vintage amps!

Dave, you are starting to sound more and more like one of those viral marketers. Whenever I think of Jet, I just picture a bunch of record execs sitting in an office somewhere nodding their heads saying “Yeah, the kids will buy this!”.

Are you kidding? Dave’s other love, Nickleback, makes Jet seem positively indie.

That would be Comets On Fire.

Popular hard rock music isn’t created by marketers. It’s created by people just like yourself. If Nickelback were so awful, why would Vinnie Paul hand them guitar solos from before Dime passed away to use in a song they wrote about Dime’s death?

Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t come from the same place everyone else’s music comes from… their own head, heart and soul. Nickelback connects with people because of strong songwriting and powerful everyman lyrics. They’re the Journey or Bon Jovi of this generation and they’re great at what they do. Their live show is among the best you can go see.

Jet have a superb grasp of the pop rock art form without losing a hard edge. They’re writing great songs. I can’t wait to get this record.

This viral marketer thing has gone too far on QT3 as far as I’m concerned. It’s just become another tool of the miserable everything sucks contingent on this forum to put down people they don’t agree with.

I got some Jet at New Reno. Stuff wears off way too fast.

That would explain why I hate Nickelback, then.

Jet have a superb grasp of the pop rock art form without losing a hard edge. They’re writing great songs. I can’t wait to get this record.

Meh. “Are You Gonna Be My Girl” is a total lift of Iggy Pop’s “Lust For Life”, and everything else I’ve heard by them isn’t even as good as that.

Come on, Cold Hard Bitch is catchy, and it looked like they do a great live performance from the Live 8 coverage I saw online long ago.

Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t come from the same place everyone else’s music comes from… their own head, heart and soul. Nickelback connects with people because of strong songwriting and powerful everyman lyrics. They’re the Journey or Bon Jovi of this generation and they’re great at what they do. Their live show is among the best you can go see.

Jesus Dave, if you can’t see how soulless Nickelback is then really there isn’t much more I can say. And comparing them to Bon Jovi doesn’t exactly help your case either.

All you do is dig yourself deeper in the I AM INDIE hole by putting down the likes of a Bon Jovi or Nickelback. Popular music may not be your thing, but it’s successful because people find it catchy and entertaining.

Nickelback are so far from soulless that it’s not even funny to me to have someone claim they’re just that. What you probably don’t like is the production and their popularity. That’s fine if you don’t dig it, but the fact it’s ultra popular doesn’t change the fact they write great songs. Go see them live and then come back here and tell me they’re soulless.

We’ve had this discussion before and the Canadian folks came in to explain that Nickelback worked like dogs to get where they are and they didn’t do it with some calculated formula of success. They did it with what they knew and landed a good record company to work with on Silver Side Up that helped them go through the roof. It’s no different than any other rags to riches rock story, but because the kids dig it, the old men of Qt3 can’t possibly enjoy it or see it for anything other than what they deem popular garbage… just because it’s popular.

Dude, everything is a lift of something else, even the stuff that supposedly started it all. There’s inspiration from all over in everything musically. It’s fine if you don’t like it, but using “Someone did that before” as an excuse to dislike something is just silly.

You can watch live footage of Jet here…

http://www.jetmusic.co.uk/audiovid.php

I’m ashamed it took me more than 10 seconds to get that.

Dave, I know the difference between “inspiration” and “rip-off”. Jet ripped off Iggy Pop in the same way that Elastica ripped off Wire.

I know this is the part of this thread where I’m supposed to jump in and rip Jet.

I won’t.

“Are You Gonna Be My Girl” is a magnificent single, a terrific piece of summer rock ephemera that future generations will pick over like a modern-day “What I Like About You”.

Thing is, I’ve heard the whole Jet debut album. And it isn’t horrible, (ok, the production is awful–maybe the worst-produced/mastered album a major label has released in 30 years) but it is horribly misguided. Jet casts their net far and wide stylistically, suggesting that a marketer gave them the first two Nuggets boxes and a White Stripes collection and told them to fish around those waters. They found a hit “sound” in “Are You Gonna”, but that’s just one Jet sound on that album out of about 4 different Jet “sounds” that they were trying on on that disc–it’s just the one that caught on.

And so in that respect, “Are You Gonna Be My Girl” is basically 2006’s version of The Knickerbockers’ “Lies”, a song which I love dearly. Thankfully, the Knickerbockers never really took themselves very seriously–they were a lounge act from Jersey who just happened to be talented enough to do a spot on Rubber Soul imitation and make themselves eternal one-hit wonders.

Which brings us to my problem with Jet. They’re one-hit wonders who aren’t smart enough to realize it. They’re trying to parlay that sound into an actual “serious” statement about something or other, and it just doesn’t fly. For one thing, they’re not even smart enough to realize how contrived they are, and as a result they sucker pre-pubescent girls (and Dave Long) into ascribing them more importance than they deserve. Fact of the matter is, there’s a band out there doing Jet’s schtick, and doing it better than they ever could. Louis XIV is also about as contrived as it gets…but they’re smart enough to know that, and that’s part of the joke they’re letting everyone in on. With a wink and nudge and tongue firmly in cheek, they rip through songs like “Pledge Of Allegiance” and “Finding Out That True Love Is Blind” with a spirit and silly joy that casts the ideological difference between them and Jet in stark contrast.

Being “the Journey or Bon Jovi” of this generation doesn’t make you cool, because it didn’t make Journey or Bon Jovi cool in their own generation! The jackholes who listened to those bands and their hyper commercialized pap had some of the worst record collections on the planet (and also some of the smallest, since liking those bands usually was symptomatic of hatred of music.) The cool kids clique in my high school thought Journey and Bon Jovi sucked. Def Leppard, April Wine, Van Halen, Motley Crue, and maybe a touch of Ratt or Quiet Riot, thanks.

Getting excited about a second full-length album from Jet is like going ape over a second full-length Zager & Evans album.

Uh. You just ripped Jet like everyone else here is ripping on Jet.

Yeah, but everything Jet “wrote” for their first album is lifted from someone else. Literally every single song on the album is just a variation on a past song/riff from popular 60s - 80s rock bands. A friend and I spent some time with the album when it first came out and managed to peg the source of every single song, sometimes down to individual and nearly identical riffs.

And you know what? We both still like the album quite a bit. Sometimes originality is overrated.

triggercut - serious question - what criteria do you use to judge the quality of music? It’s clear that you’re passionate about music, and I’d like to know how you arrive at your tastes.