Joss Whedon? Seriously?

Every other part of the show is fucking horrific though. I’d say you could watch it on mute, but at that point, shit, Pornhub’s free, man.

There’s this magical threshold where I find hot women render otherwise mediocre media sufficiently entertaining to actually watch while reading RSS feeds on the iPad, but not sufficiently erotic to incite masturbation to messy completion. The Sword of Truth TV show is right there, on that delightful cusp.

I always think that the only reason Goodkind did well is that he scored some nice covers for his novels. Gold, shiny, kind of classy while straddling the midpoint between romance novels and fantasy. Though by the same metric, it beats the hell out of me how Wheel of Time’s crayola covers ever got popular.

(disclaimer: I’ve never read Goodkind, but my wife kindly summarized the first few books to me as she read them. Sounded a lot like Wheel of Time with fetish yearnings.)

Tom Cruise is an idiot but I can still enjoy his movies. Tom Brady is a moron too but I still like watching him play football. Mel Gibson I had a hard time with after his Nazi rants and the leaked calls with his ex wife. That ruined his movies, but I’ve come around lately. He seems to have realized what a dick he was and is trying to be a better man.

I don’t care if Joss Whedon cheated on his wife. I still like Avengers.

I’ll still watch Joss Whedon’s stuff. I’m disappointed that he’s apparently a serial cheater, but that’s between him and his ex.

I have a hard time enjoying anything with Adam Baldwin in it however. He’s such a toxic and shitty person to others online that I have a real problem ignoring his real-life persona in favor of whoever he’s supposed to be playing. This makes Firefly especially challenging to watch now.

Nobody knows what goes on in a couple’s relationship. In the absence of actual abuse, I generally shrug. This does not change my opinion of Whedon’s work at all.

Oddly, I find that Jane fits my view of his persona decently enough, and he gets plenty chewed out for being an ass on the show.

It doesn’t even work for me on that level. Jane is kind of a shmucky goofball ass that you can kind of love despite his loose morals and predilection for violence. Baldwin is a straight-up vindictive trolling shitlord. I mean, the guy literally had a hand in creating GamerGate and proudly championed that crap. I can’t watch him without thinking of him being a terrible human.

What was his angle in Gamergate? Gamergate almost entirely passed me by as I quickly realised that I will always view games as media to consume and thus decided not to care about the people who make (OR REVIEW) them. Although in fairness, Brad’s experience here acted as an excellent primer on why not to care.

Oh, man. He was right there at the beginning. He created the hashtag and was one of the primary Twitter folks driving the circulation of the anti-Quinn “ethics in journalism” videos.

Adam Baldwin is a bag of dicks.

In short, yes

He actually coined the term, so he had more than a hand in at least the name.

I feel the same way about Whedon that Telefrog feels about Baldwin. He’s just gotten so deranged he’s about an 8 on the Randy Quaid scale, so he’s just a ridiculous human being these days. The fact that I never liked his emphasis on glib character dialog over coherent storytelling makes him easy to ignore.

I’m so happy that the Russo brothers have taken over the Avengers franchise, as they’ve produced the 2 best Marvel movies by a considerable margin, even though Civil War had some pacing problems. While the Snyder DC movies had some problems, at least they had their own distinct and more serious tone (and some great Alex Ross-type visuals). I can’t imagine Justice League being anything but a disaster now that Whedon is rewriting significant parts of it. I think even Whedon fans would have been better off if he was just given his own stand-alone sequel rather than the oil/water mix of Snyder/Whedon.

I didn’t really feel like making a whole new thread for this because I kind of wish Joss Whedon would go away, but since he seems to have lots of fans, here you go:

I’m surprised an AV Club writer got through that whole article without making some snarky comment about Whedon’s personal life misadventures.

My god, I don’t even want to ask. AV Club can definitely steer into the weeds with that kind of thing though.

If whatever bad personal stuff Joss Whedon did means he shouldn’t work anymore, then that can play out however it will play out.

Setting that aside, if he is allowed to work, I am glad to see him work, particularly in television, which is his native medium. Few since Serling have had such an intuitive grasp of TV, IMO. There seems to be some revisionism along the lines of ‘Whedon was never really that good,’ but I certainly can’t go along with that. And I didn’t even like Firefly that much.

I don’t like Firefly at all, except for ‘Out of Gas’, and that has minimal Whedon-esque dialogue and none of the weird cowboy crap they felt like they had to inject into the series. I’m ignorant of whatever his personal foibles might be and whether they should allow him a continued career or not, I’m just worn out of Whedon’s whole schtick. But, I’m in the minority, so here we are.

I love Firefly, I love Buffy, and I think Whedon is a hypocritical asshole, but since he can write, I will definitely give his new show a chance.

He can write, for sure, but…

sci-fi epic about a gang of Victorian women who find themselves with unusual abilities, relentless enemies, and a mission that might change the world.

Remove the word Victorian and that is about the blandest thing I have ever heard of. Of course this is early going, but that sounded so generic.

People, with… abilities… might change the world?

Don’t sell this to us too hard Joss, calm down.