Just Cause 2 - More Open World Utter Insanity

[BrianRubin]

Oooooooooooohhhhh, okay, thank you. I was really worried there, as I wanna try 'em out. I’ll do that tonight. :)

[notatiger]

Oh, I have a question. I was able to do faction missions for the Ulars and the Reapers, but now I can’t seem to find any for the Roaches (it seems to have disappeared off the map entirely). Do I have to do the Agency mission to have it come back?

Lots of people have this problem – it’s not missing, it’s just really hard to see the blue icon amongst blue water on a busy map. Turn off all icons except for mission points and look closely… it’s there.

I too had the first Blue Star disappear, but it returned after I did another Red mission.

[BrianRubin]

Yeah, I can’t see it at all on the map after doing 2 red and 2 yellow missions.

[Otagan]

link? i’d love to get rid of that animation.

http://www.justcause2mods.com/index.php/mods/other/Black-Market/Technopaths-Black-Market-Mod-v3/

[lordkosc]

ah thanks :D

[Marcin]

Well, I tried making a superjump tweak but it looks like the modders only deciphered a handful of adjustable values, not enough to do a superjump justice (way too much air control, and not enough impulse motion, just a simple gravity adjustment). Ah well. At least the superRico mod feels pretty good.

[ChiTownBluesFan]

Did anyone ever find out if you get or unlock anything for 100% in this game? I tagged all 350-ish locations and got nothing at all, so never bothered to attempt to clear the entire thing.

You can’t actually get 100%.

At the very least, there’s a water tower that is somehow underground that you can’t get to. Also seem to recall that there are less pickups than there should be. This is going from what I found in the JC2 Map Viewer (I think it’s called).

[Sam_Jones]

You can’t actually get 100%.

At the very least, there’s a water tower that is somehow underground that you can’t get to. Also seem to recall that there are less pickups than there should be. This is going from what I found in the JC2 Map Viewer (I think it’s called).

If that’s true then it means that nobody from the developer or publisher has finished their own game, which shows an astonishing lack of care.

[SpoofyChop]

If that’s true then it means that nobody from the developer or publisher has finished their own game, which shows an astonishing lack of care.

I disagree.

Just Cause 2 is one of the most polished and enjoyable shooters out there. If there’s a bug that prevents 100% completion then that’s no different than any other bug. Given that it’s a bug that would affect less than 1% of all players I couldn’t possibly see it being called an astonishing lack of care.

It’s hardly worse than a minor oversight.

[BrianRubin]

You can’t actually get 100%.

At the very least, there’s a water tower that is somehow underground that you can’t get to. Also seem to recall that there are less pickups than there should be. This is going from what I found in the JC2 Map Viewer (I think it’s called).

Maybe you can email this to the developers so they can patch it?

[JeffL]

Another reason I love this game:

I suck at driving in console arcade games. There is a mission in which you are supposed to hijack the limo of a political dude and bring him to the drop point of the mission owner. It’s pretty simple: find and hijack the limo, then drive it all the way through some winding roads while the bad guys set up roadblocks, chase you, and general try to destroy the limo and the guy you kidnapped.

Well, the limo is pretty tough, but it doesn’t turn well, so as I am trying to get away from being shot up, I always miss a turn and end up in the woods, in a valley, etc. trying to get back to the road, running into trees, etc. I get close, then boom I’m dead.

SO I said screw it. I heard my character say if you don’t shut and and stay with me I’m gonna cut off your hands and bitch slap you with them the entire way. So I managed to wreck the limo and exit, and he came out with me. Cool. And I see he follows me closely. More cool. So I just take him through the woods, trying to avoid the bad guys, every once in a while being seen as we cross a road, but easy to deal with. Go the long way around, get to the compound that is the drop point from behind and thus avoid some big groups of bad guys, and complete the mission.

Better yet - complete the mission MY way.

Love this game. So much respect for the player.

[sinnick]

Another reason I love this game:

I suck at driving in console arcade games. There is a mission in which you are supposed to hijack the limo of a political dude and bring him to the drop point of the mission owner. It’s pretty simple: find and hijack the limo, then drive it all the way through some winding roads while the bad guys set up roadblocks, chase you, and general try to destroy the limo and the guy you kidnapped.

Well, the limo is pretty tough, but it doesn’t turn well, so as I am trying to get away from being shot up, I always miss a turn and end up in the woods, in a valley, etc. trying to get back to the road, running into trees, etc. I get close, then boom I’m dead.

SO I said screw it. I heard my character say if you don’t shut and and stay with me I’m gonna cut off your hands and bitch slap you with them the entire way. So I managed to wreck the limo and exit, and he came out with me. Cool. And I see he follows me closely. More cool. So I just take him through the woods, trying to avoid the bad guys, every once in a while being seen as we cross a road, but easy to deal with. Go the long way around, get to the compound that is the drop point from behind and thus avoid some big groups of bad guys, and complete the mission.

Better yet - complete the mission MY way.

Love this game. So much respect for the player.

That’s awesome!

I think I remember that limo mission. Was that the one where you have to drive down a Lombard-esque road that winds back and forth down a hill slope? In any event, whether it was a limo or one of the other vehicles that can’t turn well, I decided that instead of taking the winding road all the way down, I was just going to ignore the road and drive straight down the hill.

I think I flipped the car a few times, but we survived and got enough of a head start to beat the bad guys to the drop point.

[BrianRubin]

That’s AWESOME, Jeff. I plan to play JC2 a lot during my upcoming downtime. ;)

[scharmers]

I decided that instead of taking the winding road all the way down, I was just going to ignore the road and drive straight down the hill.

What, that’s not the right way to do it?

Totally fits in with the rest of the game :)

[Matt_Bowyer]

Another reason I love this game:

I suck at driving in console arcade games. There is a mission in which you are supposed to hijack the limo of a political dude and bring him to the drop point of the mission owner. It’s pretty simple: find and hijack the limo, then drive it all the way through some winding roads while the bad guys set up roadblocks, chase you, and general try to destroy the limo and the guy you kidnapped.

Well, the limo is pretty tough, but it doesn’t turn well, so as I am trying to get away from being shot up, I always miss a turn and end up in the woods, in a valley, etc. trying to get back to the road, running into trees, etc. I get close, then boom I’m dead.

SO I said screw it. I heard my character say if you don’t shut and and stay with me I’m gonna cut off your hands and bitch slap you with them the entire way. So I managed to wreck the limo and exit, and he came out with me. Cool. And I see he follows me closely. More cool. So I just take him through the woods, trying to avoid the bad guys, every once in a while being seen as we cross a road, but easy to deal with. Go the long way around, get to the compound that is the drop point from behind and thus avoid some big groups of bad guys, and complete the mission.

Better yet - complete the mission MY way.

Love this game. So much respect for the player.

I remember that mission! Let me search the thread…

I did a mission the other night where I had to kidnap this one guy and take him to the completely awesome Bolo Santosi. He’s in a limo, and once I finish shooting his guards in the face with a shotgun, I take over the limo and he starts screaming at me, asking if I know who he is, and I’m ignoring him as I take a limo around hairpin turns down a mountain. Thanks to someone’s terrible driving – I won’t say whose – I hit two cars and a forest, and go flipping down the mountain as this guy bellows that I better set him free.

The limo lands on its roof and stays there. I bail out, and so does he. The limo explodes.

We look at each other for a long minute. Had this part of the game been voice-acted, I think it would have gone something like this.

“Okay, so… I’m gonna grab another car here.”
“Sure, fine.”
“Do you – I mean, do you care what type I get?”
“What? No, no… anything is fine.”
“Look, here’s a four-door sedan. This should handle fine. Should I…?”
“No, I can get my own door.”
“Okay. Oh, don’t forget your seatbelt. Roads are murder! Heh heh…”
“Heh heh, yes, they are… okay, we can proceed.”
“There’s a gas station up ahead, you, uh, need anything?”
“No, I am fine.”
“Okay. I’ll just… I’ll just drive, then.”

Most polite kidnap victim I’ve ever seen.

I love this game.

[JeffL]

Yeah, I tried doing the mission off-road, but just kept hitting trees, rocks, and getting stuck. In the end, it just fit more the way I play to do it on foot - sneak through the woods, watch at the road until the armored car goes past, dash across the road, if we get seen draw the bad guys deep in the woods and then finish them off one at a time there, etc.

Now it would have been very cool if we could have simply hijacked another car and had the bad guys not recognize us, since they are looking for the limo, but that is probably asking just a little bit too much. ;)

Again, just so much respect for the player, to let you play the way you want, as openly as possible.

[Strato]

Mr Thang… If you don’t shut up, I will cut off your hands and bitch slap you with them all the way to where we are going…

I did that mission last time by tailing the limo most of the way down the road, avoiding a lot of the bends, before finally grappling in from the sky. The story there though is that I lost my motorbike due to a stupid stunt idea on the way down, bailed, then kept following it.

[Badesumofu]

Yeah, JC2 ruined me for games where you have to drive the specific car you’re dirceted to, or take this particular route (I’m looking at you GTA4 and Red Dead). JC2 just gives you a basic objective - there’s a guy in a limo around here, get him, and bring him here. You have an objective, a world and a set of equipment, and the freedom to employ those tools to achieve the objective however you like and a world that will support your choice. This, imo, is how open world games ought to be done, and why I think that JC2 has totally knocked Rockstar of its perch.

Despite there being a number of great games that I’ve loved this year, in particular New Vegas, I think JC2 is my GOTY.

[JeffL]

Yeah. It’s why I had such mixed feelings about RDR. RDR had a superior environment in terms of details (such as the muddy trails after a rain, the wildlife, etc.) and a true story line, even though the Mexico part was totally screwed up, IMO.

But it certainly wasn’t “open” in the sense that JC2 is open. By and large, you needed to do each mission the way it was designed to be done. And while there may be a sense of sameness in JC2 in taking some installations, it is still open enough for unusual things to happen, unlike the "OK, here is a guy saying he is stranded and asking me to give him a ride for the ONE HUNDREDTH TIME and EVERY TIME HE IS GOING TO TRY TO STEAL MY HORSE. Same for the women “in distress” next to a wagon, and so on and so on.

I enjoyed RDR. But if you’re judging by openness of the open world game, and freedom to do things in any way you’re creativity can come up with, it’s no contest (Hmm - wonder if I could pick the limo up with a chopper???)

[Sam_Jones]

It’s hardly worse than a minor oversight.

Not being able to finish the game is not a minor oversight given how much effort it takes to do it all. JC2 is a great game and I had a fantastic time with it, but if I’d put the time in to get 100% I’d be fucking livid if I were looking for that last destroyable which was impossible to get to.