Kickstarting and Screaming

I am such a 7D2D junkie, I could not resist. I am nervous about the phrase “Steam in six months”. What they have pitched is pretty involved, and some of the stretch goals quite complex. fingers are crossed.

On the positive side, it is based on a prior Crysis mod from what I gather and the main developer said they’ve been getting some pretty nice communication with Epic regarding the engine and questions that come up.

They come across as fellas that want to get things done and avoid the huge stigma of stagnant development hell. I’ll cross my fingers and hope that they succeed because I would love one of this kind of game to really nail it AND not be an online only pvp shitboners festival.

Thanks for the Cubiio vid. I’m keeping my pledge, am ok with toy level engraving. I saw the raster looked like shit earlier, its not a surprise to me. Don’t go in expecting a glowforge…

Not a game, but this one is getting some press.

frank. - An Indiegogo project for a $180 smartphone that supposedly takes on the big guys. You know how they’re sincere? Because they drop the f-bomb a lot in their pitch.

It’s about time to disrupt the shit out of the North American smartphone industry because let’s be honest, it’s just not frank that the Big Guys charge $1,000 for a product that only costs around $150 to make.

frank. comes packed with high specs at a low cost just for you!

It isn’t revolutionary, but it is pretty fucking awesome!

frank isn’t just quick, it’s actually pretty fucking fast.

Oh, but wait.

The phone in the campaign is literally a rebrand of a phone available on Ali Baba

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The digital conversion of Evolution is up on Kickstarter.

I thought Apple only gave devs a very limited number of free codes, which is why we don’t see ios games on Kickstarter, usually. Has something changed recently?

Frank is also the best movie I ever saw about a man with a papier mache head.

Welp, my wife juust asked me to post this here. I learned about it minutes ago! It was created by a friend of hers who is running the Kickstarter.

A card game w beautiful ukiyo-e style Japanese art. I know very little about it. It’s already funded, and the funding ends in 3 days. It’s described as a “pick one, play one” fast paced game for 2-6 players. Check it out of you’re interested.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zipang/zipang-portable-the-card-game/description

“Doing the math, it seems like the winning move is to sit back, let the brave souls sort out the wheat from the chaff, and pay the eBay tax when a winner comes along”

Seems right. Although the headline is hardly going to attract clicks $16K is not a particularly expensive games collection, or even an expensive hobby.

Uh, what?

$16,000 over 2.5 years is a VERY expensive games collection. And a very expensive hobby.

Honestly, I cannot think of a hobby I’d even want to spend over $6,000 a year on. Other than maybe travel, but I don’t consider that a hobby and can’t afford to spend that anyway, and I have a good income.

Pfft :) I used to be an Astronomer $16K ? That’s hardly getting started! :) I imagine golfers, car lovers, gun enthusiasts or boat owners might also scoff. Let alone drinkers… :)

Considering that’s just about half of my pretax income, consider me thoroughly on the “16,000 hobby is batshit crazy” train.

Adding together all the boardgames, computer games and computers I’ve bought, including an alienware laptop (overpriced, don’t buy alienware guys, their support sucks) and all the various mobile phones, and it’s probably adding up to $16000 or £12000.

Over the course of 14 years…😀

I mean, I went to spiel essen and spent maybe € 300, including the entrance over 2 days…

$16,000 over 30 months (2.5 years) is just over $530 per month. That’s like a car payment for a nice model brand new car, not “hobby money”. Given that most board/card games tend to cost between $40 and $80 brand new, you could potentially purchase 2 brand new games per week, every single week of the year for that kind of cash.

That’s crazy money to spend on board/card games. Unless he was backing games at higher than standard levels, he’s got something like 200 games backed. Even if they were all awesome, who could possibly learn and play that many games? Your gaming group would be set for YEARS to come!

Oh yeah, this guy backed at some crazy tiers. Many between $100-$500, a $900 gaming table, and $1600 for a games.

ranker2283 points1 day ago
List of backed games:
The Networks: Executives $40
Successful pledges Includes pledges that were successfully charged 152 projects
Conan: The Book of Set $25
Vikings Gone Wild - Masters of Elements Expansion $88
Catacombs Conquest $50
A Song of Ice & Fire: Tabletop Miniatures Game $482.00
Argent: the Consortium - 2nd Ed. $100.00
Star Realms Frontiers $177.00
Cthulhu Wars Onslaught 3 $314.00
WHO GOES THERE? $110.00
Founders of Gloomhaven $49.00
Rise of Tribes $66.00
Lords of Hellas £189.00
Triplock $28.00
1066, Tears to Many Mothers - £34.00
GameTek: The Book $30.00
Deception: Undercover Allies $61.00
Clash of Rage €1.00
Zombicide: Green Horde $475.00
Barbarians: The Invasion £107.00
Manhattan Project 2: Minutes to Midnight - $59.00
Zombie Tsunami - The Board Game $46.00
The Skirmish Box - A Custom Case for your Miniatures $179.00
Heroes of Land, Air & Sea $159.00
Rayguns & Rocketships $70.00
Game Upgrades 3.0 by Meeple Source! $47.00
Massif Displays: Folding Compact Board Game Stands. $39.00
TerrainCrate - Plastic, affordable, fantasy terrain! $180.00
HANNIBAL & HAMILCAR £65.00
Brass ~ An Industrial Revolution CA$ 132.00
The Secret Cabal Gaming Podcast $50.00
Gloomhaven (Second Printing) $25.00
Hardback - The “Pre-Quill” to Paperback $30.00
Bargain Quest! $70.00
The Grimm Forest $49.00
The Pirate Republic $104.00
Aeon’s End: War Eternal $150.00
GKR: Heavy Hitters $125.00
Cytosis: A Cell Biology Board Game $58.00
878 Vikings - Invasions of England $225.00
Dinosaur Island $80.00
Monikers: The Shut Up & Sit Down Nonsense Box $64.00
The Grid Game / The reinvention of the Dominoes! $135.00
Rising Sun $100.00
No Pun Included - A Board Game Review Series £66.00
Empires of the Void II $65.00
Champions of Midgard: The Expansions $48.00
Game Boy Geek - Season 5 - 2017 $150.00
Sub Terra: a Cooperative Survival Horror Game £86.00
Age of Towers €100.00
Dogs Board Game $39.00
3D Laser Cut Resource Hex Set $155.00
Railways of Nippon: The Next Train Stop $239.00
Quodd Heroes CA$ 95.00
SUPERHOT The Card Game $31.00
Necroboomicon: the first expansion $6.00
The World of SMOG: Rise of Moloch $120.00
Tortuga 1667: $27.00
Keymelequin and Keyflower! $8.00
Delve $45.00
Tao Long €108.00
MCG Premium Sleeves & Accessories $32.00
Stay Out of My Dungeon! $35.00
Kingdom Death: Monster 1.5 $1,666.00
5-Minute Dungeon: CA$ 53.00
Vast: The Crystal Caverns - with Miniatures $125.00
Abandon Planet $42.00
Lisboa: $106.00
Portable Paint Station - €189.00
Keyper - Character Edition £91.00
Bears vs Babies - A Card Game $35.00
Man vs Meeple Season One Kickstarter $50.00
Mythic Battles: Pantheon $99.00
Dialect: A Game about Language and How it Dies $36.00 ILLIMAT $64.00
Pretending to Grownup CA$ 36.00
Tiny Epic Quest - Introducing ITEMeeples™ $28.00
The Edge: Dawnfall £150.00
Rewordable • $64.00
Deep Madness $90.00
Endangered Orphans of Condyle Cove $75.00
Thornwatch $398.00
Vengeance $205.00
The Captain is Dead - Episode 3 $110.00
BattleCON: Trials - The Fighting Board Game $320.00
Heroes of Normandie, The Tactical Card Game €62.00
Card Rogue: A Tabletop Roguelike $27.00
Siege of the Citadel - 2nd Edition $239.00
BATTALIA: The Stormgates $272.00
Tiny Epic Galaxies: Beyond the Black $28.00
Word Domination - $33.00
One Night Ultimate Alien $275.00
Miniature Holders & Grips for painting and sculpting €87.00
BITBOX - Board Game Storage $96.00
Character Meeples (2.0) - $16.00
Unfair $49.00
Hostage Negotiator: Crime Wave $115.00
The Gods War $1,000.00
Near and Far - Storytelling Board Game $77.00
Dwarves in Trouble $56.00
Overseers €22.00
What Do You Meme?™ $40.00
Evil Dead 2: The Official Board Game $225.00
The Walking Dead No Sanctuary $275.00
Martians: A Story of Civilization $138.00
Hero Realms, a Deckbuilding Adventure Card Game $82.00
The Duchess - A Gaming Table $858.00
Lab Wars - card game £39.00
Nerdy Inventions - The Crazy Inventions Dice Game $18.00
Millennium Blades - Promos! $50.00
YOKOHAMA Deluxe! by Hisashi Hayashi & TMG $65.00
Fugitive $20.00
Mechanical Dice Towers $71.00
Xia: Embers of a Forsaken Star $135.00
Massive Darkness $409.00
Catacombs & Castles CA$ 99.00
OrganATTACK! - a Card Game by The Awkward Yeti $27.00
Vikings Gone Wild - The Board Game $96.00
The Resistance - Plot Thickens $9.00
This War Of Mine: The Board Game £300.00
Outlive €89.00
SANTORINI ! CA$ 70.00
Joking Hazard $75.00
The Walking Dead: All Out War Miniatures Game $331.00
House of Borgia $40.00
Karmaka – A tactical card game for 2-4 souls $30.00
Space Battle Dice $43.00
Sentinels of the Multiverse: OblivAeon $169.00
Tiny Epic Western Character Meeples! $35.00
Magnetic War Mats Wave 2 $110.00
Thief’s Market $17.00
Tiny Epic Western $26.00
XenoShyft: Dreadmire $60.00

What do you think you pay for a country club membership and golfing?

Even if you play on public courses, 18 holes and a cart can easily cost you $50 at the cheaper places, and more at the nicer places. Then add in drinks after the round, maybe hit a bucket on the range before the rounds, and buy a sleeve of balls at the course pro shop, and you’re spending an easy $85+ per week just for your Saturday golf. Then you want to hit balls at the range during the week, and get a new club now and then? It’s not cheap to play golf if you’re really into it.

Most hobbies, I think, are willing to suck as much money out of your wallet as you are willing to pay. Think about how much you can spend on a home entertainment system, and then how every few years that’s outdated.

You can be a gamer and spend $50 a month, or you can be a gamer and spend $300 per month when you include hardware upgrades, buying the latest games at full price, etc.

That’s also why the expense of a hobby varies in part on the individual. $530 a month is expensive, no matter what hobby it’s being spent on.

I agree, but so is everything else. You can live in an $800/month apartment and spend $300/month on your hobby, or live in an $1100/month apartment and not have a hobby. It’s all the same, really, just like the cost of cars, clothes, vacationing, and everything else. Some people budget to spend $2000 a year on vacations. Some people like to buy good wine at $20 per bottle, or more.

Once you have disposable income, it’s not that surprising that you spend it on stuff like hobbies, vacations, electronics, etc. If you don’t have disposable income, the idea of spending $300 per month on spurious things seems a bit outlandish.

Or you can live in a city where you have to pay $2500/month and just watch netflix because you’re too broke.

I have a friend who buys a new Maserati every year for about a quarter million a pop. I think that’s insane but I guess how expensive a hobby is, is really relative to income level. I’m not at that level of money or stupid, though.