When did I ever imply that I did? Just because I wonder if Jason cares as much about innocent Americans being beheaded by the same kinds of people we incarcerate? Then he lies that he actually posts vehemently about it cause he has no proof.
I was actually referring to the malestrom surrounding ABC’s 9-11 movie where the Democrats are shitting themselves pressuring ABC to pull it. I’m surprised there isn’t a thread about it on here. Usually you guys are the champions of free speech, freedom of expression, and all that jazz.
I thought I’d see long diatribes from Jason about how dare our current or former government leaders try to surpress free speech. I thought I’d see Midnight Son with some witty…err…stupid one-liner about how Microsoft owns the airwaves with some Halliburton thrown in. I thought I’d see quatoria call CindySue a cunt and make no contribution to the thread.
Oh yeah, I forget that you don’t give a shit about those things unless the free speech coincides with your beliefs. SORRY BOUT THAT.
Yeah, Flowers, you didn’t expect Bob to actually state a position on anything, did you? It’s far easier (and sadly for our political system, more effective) to just attack the other guy than it is to defend your own positions.
Well Bob, it’s nice to have you agree with us,maybe. I didn’t accuse you of supporting it, I just asked you whether you did, since that was what we were discussing, and you hadn’t really weighed in on it yet. I thought it would be impolite to just talk around you without asking you how you feel.
But, yeah, free speech, etc doesn’t extend to a major network fabricating a story about the Clinton administration refusing to authorize the CIA to kill Bin Laden when they had the opportunity. Interesting timing, right before an election, too.
As long as we are making stuff up, why don’t we dramatize the Bush cabinet meeting post-9/11 where they discuss how they can leverage 9/11 to justify an invasion of Iraq? Oh, wait, because that wouldn’t be a fabrication.
Suskind cites further CIA notes on the guy. “mental capacity of a child” or whatever is overstating it; but it’s pretty clear that a) he was honest to god insane and b) he didn’t have a significant role in Al Qaeda. The main thing he did was like arrange for wives and children to visit their daddys while they were at Jihad summer camp.
Oh, and just to get in the requisite Bush bashing - when informed of this Bush basically said to Tenet “I already said the guy was a major player, you’d better find out he’s a major player.” Bush had declared him a major capture before interrogation was even complete.
Oh, I didn’t think you were - my second post was just to vent a bit of steam from my “hate bush” tank. :D
But yeah, Abu Zubaydh was a way overstated capture. He had a diary that was literally written in like three different “voices” - one of which was an eight year old child.