League of Legends: Official Thread

Calistas · 2011-07-15T06:47:25.000Z

No need when you are at 2AS (hitting 2.5 late-game and wailing on them. He gets tanky enough for mid game just with wriggles and wits, or so it seems. I like Blue’s approach a lot.

l0lh3h3 · 2011-07-15T07:21:51.000Z

bluemax · 2011-07-15T10:24:18.000Z

Calistas:

Blue: do you regularly go wriggles, malady, wit’s end with Trinity later on Udyr? It feels powerful in the bot game I had, but of course this isn’t a good measure. Do you often or sometimes go quite a bit more tanky instead, and if so, when? I guess when your team is short on tanks? Or do you try to carry at all times?

Udyr seems really flexible, I am curious to hear the thinking behind various approaches… Because I have more time to read qt3 than to play :(

I always get Trinity after Wriggle’s. Since the Tiger stance change I’ve been grabbing Wit’s End a lot but it depends upon the make up of the enemy team.

I also really like Force of Nature on Udyr as the healing and movement speed increases make him pretty nasty to deal with.

I’ve experimented with Atma’s before as well. Really the only things I consistently build are Wriggles, Tri-Force and boots. Everything else is entirely dependent upon the flow of the game.

idrisz:

you should choose between malady or wit’s end, no need to get both, get trinity after that.

Ehhh, I’ve made it work with both. Since they dumped the mana burn from Wit’s end stacking the two isn’t as bad. But it isn’t something I would do regularly. It is hilarious when you do it though.

I always go Tri-Force second. It makes more of a difference than anything else.

guppy:

Do people not build tank stuff on Udyr anymore? Used to be that the standard was to get Wriggles and then tank up and be an unkillable asshole. I haven’t played him in months.

Well with runes, masteries, Wriggles, Merc Treads and Wit’s End I’m sitting at around 120ish AR and 140 MR before the Wit’s End stacks start going. With Tiger stance I’m easily maintaining 200ish MR in any team fight.

I will say I still get fucked a bit by heavy burst teams with that build, but in longer team fights I find it to be plenty tanky.

bluemax · 2011-07-15T11:17:35.000Z

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Guinsoo on Twitter:

[/U]The goals are complicated. First, we want junglers to have to choose between PvE and PvP. Timers are too long.

In other words, it’s easy for a jungler to clear his side and then have to wait for more respawns, forcing him to gank or do nothing. Bad.

The jungle is also a little too hard overall. In order to be successful there, you usually have crazy OP sustain. See Lanedyr, Lanewick.

Ideally I would like to make Smite optional, but unsure if that will result. Lizard too strong -> forces passivity.

We’d also like to make it so laners can poach small camps without harming your jungler. Also, gold/exp rewards should scale.

A goal of reducing the respawn timers is make the jungler choose: continue gaining exp or gank. Right now he can do both.

Ideally a jungler would be able to circle around his jungle doing small camps all day if he wanted, but it should be less than lane exp.

A jungler should need to gank successfully to keep up, but if behind staying in the jungle should be a good place to catch up.

Apparently they’re rebalancing Jungling again.

JM1 · 2011-07-15T13:21:51.000Z

Woohoo! I broke my personal record.

edit: 20 mins later, it’s gone up by 15 mins :(

Hanacker · 2011-07-15T13:37:37.000Z

bluemax:

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Apparently they’re rebalancing Jungling again.

It sounds like the jungle is going to go back to favoring the better gankers (Shaco, etc.) over the more sustainable junglers. I’m not sure why we want that, although if jungle Akali becomes a viable pick again I guess I’m personally okay with it.

peacedog · 2011-07-15T13:40:40.000Z

Well, Akali clearly needs a pick-me up. Why not make her a viable jungler?

Hanacker · 2011-07-15T13:44:49.000Z

Back before they buffed dragon, etc., I used to play jungle Akali all the time. She might not have been viable at high Elo, but she was a lot of fun at my level. I forget the build order, but a magic elixir was involved and she could solo dragon pretty early with it so if you managed that or some early ganks it was totally worth it.

Calistas · 2011-07-16T05:17:20.000Z

6/0/6 as Udyr, only got boots, wriggles and armor built before they quit. I could have gone back to shop - but why bother when you’re ganking all over the show!?

guppy · 2011-07-16T05:31:36.000Z

Calistas:

6/0/6 as Udyr, only got boots, wriggles and armor built before they quit. I could have gone back to shop - but why bother when you’re ganking all over the show!?

That’s the best kind of game. I fondly remember my 0 death, Doran’s Shield, 15-minute concede victory lol lane Amumu game from a while back.

Calistas · 2011-07-16T12:28:31.000Z

I am really loving Udyr. He has none of the annoyances of other junglers that I have played and a lot of awesome potential.

Jason_McMaster · 2011-07-16T14:14:58.000Z

I’m 3 for 4 with Janna in normal games now. Had a ton of queue dodges because I picked her. People think she sucks? Idiots.

McKnight · 2011-07-16T14:16:03.000Z

Janna is one of the best champions in the game, so don’t feel too bad about teaching people that ;)

Hanacker · 2011-07-16T14:31:45.000Z

She’s hard to play well, though, so maybe they’d never seen a good one.

McKnight · 2011-07-16T20:02:59.000Z

Janna has the highest win % of any solo queue champion in the game… Just sayin :)

chequers · 2011-07-16T20:44:47.000Z

The riotstats results change randomly between patches. Champs without any changes in each patch get wildly different W/L and K/D ratios afterwards.

McKnight · 2011-07-16T21:06:23.000Z

This is based on a plain 2 champ queue stat, I’ll find the survey somewhere…

Basically out of any duo, Janna was present like 7 times in the top ten.

-edit- Nope nvm, I can’t find it again (I knew I should have bookmarked it). Basically somebody combined usage statistics to find which combinations of 2 champions were present on a winning team. Answer was basically Janna + Whatever you want.

maxle · 2011-07-16T22:31:31.000Z

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I find that when I do exceptionally well I don’t notice that I’m doing exceptionally well until after the fact. I was pretty shocked by my KDA total after the score screen loaded.

Jason_McMaster · 2011-07-17T01:50:02.000Z

I’m still learning her, but I’m doing pretty OK. A buddy of mine who is pretty high ELO spent some time with me last night going over a few things I wasn’t getting right, so I think I’m getting a better handle on her.

She’s fun because she pisses people off.

merryprankster · 2011-07-17T08:36:35.000Z

So playing this game I’ve noticed how in it is in some ways similar with PvP in Demon’s Souls, at least in terms of the flow of combat. That got me thinking how awesome a console version of a DotA game, built in an engine similar to Demon’s Souls, could be.

Just my random thought for this Sunday morning, carry on. off to invade some poor saps world in DS :)