League of Legends: Official Thread

SlyFrog · 2011-09-08T09:28:28.000Z

Mike Cathcart:

While we’re on the subject, who wants to give me some tips on playing against Cait in mid as Vayne? I am seriously the worst against her. If I try to be aggressive I get wrecked by her range and if I play defensively she’ll just keep pushing wave after wave to the tower, chipping away at it until it a splode. Should I be relying on ganks? We don’t always have a jungler in my games so I don’t seem to get help in mid that often. Is there a certain point where the tables turn and I have an advantage in 1v1?

Cait just sucks to mid against in my opinion. I have similar problems against her with Annie, etc. in a way that I don’t have against a lot of other characters.

Mike_Cathcart · 2011-09-08T10:19:04.000Z

Also, here’s a good tip for new players. A friend of mine calls Malphite’s Q attack “the poop wheel” and since then we’ve just been calling Malphite ‘PoopWheel’. Normally you might have to warn people “Hey, watch out for Malphite’s Q,” but you really don’t have to warn people to not be near a poop wheel. Nobody wants the poop wheel.

So that makes the game better.

bluemax · 2011-09-08T10:35:01.000Z

maxle:

I’d go with Cait. Vayne combines insane damage with extreme squishiness and short range. As well, in lane Cait can harass Vayne without taking any damage in return. But sure, if you avoid death and keep putting out deeps for a whole fight, Vayne’s unmatched.

I think Cait is definitely a better solo queue pick, but Cait and Vayne are probably in the top 3 for ranged carries right now. Ashe would be the other one, although she brings different things to the table.

Jason_McMaster · 2011-09-08T10:47:15.000Z

Tristana

bluemax · 2011-09-08T10:50:03.000Z

One of the top LoL players is like 9 years old.

JoshV · 2011-09-08T10:53:14.000Z

bluemax:

One of the top LoL players is like 9 years old.

Hah. He’s asian, he’s probably like 21. I kid, but he’s probably a highschooler or middleschooler maybe?

peacedog · 2011-09-08T10:54:07.000Z

Jason McMaster:

Tristana

Vayne does Trist’s job better, I think.

bluemax · 2011-09-08T11:02:00.000Z

JoshV:

Hah. He’s asian, he’s probably like 21. I kid, but he’s probably a highschooler or middleschooler maybe?

I think he’s actually 14, but everyone gives him shit about looking even younger.

Lunarstorm · 2011-09-08T11:02:07.000Z

The other “pros” like to tease Pobelter for his size and age. He’s 14? 16? Not any older than that. And he’s currently #3 on the NA solo queue ladder with a 2500+ rating.

Phaxxen (#23 in the solo queue with a 2300+ rating) is also young, I think he’s 14.

Therlun · 2011-09-08T11:07:57.000Z

peacedog:

Vayne does Trist’s job better, I think.

AD scaling indeed.
Also, Trist’s ult on a ten second cooldown. With AD scaling.
Also, percentage based true damage.

idrisz · 2011-09-08T11:11:23.000Z

they need to buff trist, change her E or something, her E is like one of the most useless skill ever…

Make it like all attack in the next 6 seconds deal extra AOE damage that’s on a Low or mid AD scaling, something like .5 AD scaling, so you can use it on single target for extra damage as well as dealing extra splash damage in team fight.

MrCoffee · 2011-09-08T11:11:26.000Z

I just played Ashe, we won (i carried), but i think it was a 40 minute game.

Out of like 30 arrows i might have shot i think i only landed 3 :(

Hanacker · 2011-09-08T11:15:09.000Z

idrisz:

they need to buff trist, change her E or something, her E is like one of the most useless skill ever…

Make it like all attack in the next 6 seconds deal extra AOE damage that’s on a Low or mid AD scaling, something like .5 AD scaling, so you can use it on single target for extra damage as well as dealing extra splash damage in team fight.

It was moderately useful, then they killed all healing debuffs. It’s good early game and that’s about it.

Jason_McMaster · 2011-09-08T11:17:24.000Z

Therlun:

AD scaling indeed.
Also, Trist’s ult on a ten second cooldown. With AD scaling.
Also, percentage based true damage.

good escape move, good aoe, much longer range

skyride · 2011-09-08T11:19:47.000Z

Jason McMaster:

good escape move, good aoe, much longer range

Also faster farming and lane pushing.

Edit: oh you’re just talking about the ult… I was thinking of advantages Tris has over Vayne.

Jason_McMaster · 2011-09-08T11:20:22.000Z

make that 2 escape moves, if you count the ultimate

Jason_McMaster · 2011-09-08T11:21:20.000Z

That’s not to say I don’t like Vayne, I do, but I think Tristana is pretty damned good and just underrated

idrisz · 2011-09-08T11:22:13.000Z

Jason McMaster:

make that 2 escape moves, if you count the ultimate

Vayne has 2 as well if you count trist’s ult. her normal roll, also with ult, she invis whenever she rolls. also Vayne’s E work similar to trist’s ult. only thing trist has over vayne is basically Aoe farming, which is kind of useless early lane game since you don’t want to push the lane that much.

guppy · 2011-09-08T11:26:59.000Z

I think Vayne also performs far better damage-wise until Tristana gets farmed. A really farmed Tristana is a force to be reckoned with, but the challenge is getting there. Vayne has more early game presence.

Trist’s steroid is also underwhelming – it’s straight AS, which while nice isn’t as useful in team fights since you rarely get to stand still and pew pew. Good for buildings though.

Therlun · 2011-09-08T11:40:37.000Z

Jason McMaster:

good escape move, good aoe, much longer range

I give you the range.

If you count Trist’s ult as an escape, Vayne has three. Her roll, stealth and her mini Trist ult (Vayne also gets a potential stun with that).

Good AOE? Disadvantage early game and useless in team fights.