I was talking about elo, not level. It’s pretty uncommon in the games I play. It’s even less common as you get up to crazy professional gamer land.

And since when was that a measure of skill?

Comebacks are extremely rare because your opponents need to make a series of bad mistakes for it to happen. As you play against better opponents (and with better allies on the other side of the coin) you are far less likely to make these mistakes and consequently comebacks are a rare sight. I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase “We didn’t win that, they lost it”.

Dude you have less than 20 ranked games, you can’t talk about Elo!

Oooh, Karma on the board for this week. I’ve wanted to try her since forever.

One would think the class of game matters more then the quantity.

If you’re trying to determine trends and frequency, no.

Normal game elo.

Nobody plays serious in normal games anymore.

My last few games make me want to punch people in the face.

First game, I’m solo top as Katarina vs Jarvan. Their jungle Gangplank ganks, our Shaco doesn’t. Then Yi and Shaco bitch at me nonstop for feeding. Bonus: They bitch at me for not comboing ults with Malphite when he never uses his ult to initiate, only to pick up kills.

Second game, I’m top as Vayne with a Nasus who doesn’t get more than 1/4 of his Q last hit attempts and never uses his snare. Shaco literally follows me around, my team doesn’t talk until 14 minutes when Lux blames me for feeding. In the meantime, chase Yi across half the map, through mid lane where our Anivia doesn’t even bother reacting by TRYING to land a stun.

Their Shaco spends literally the entire game following me around and ganking me, causing me to end the game 0-7. So of course it’s my fault we lost… not the 100% useless Nasus, not the very good Shaco on the other team, not the practically-AFK Anivia or the Lux who couldn’t land a spell, and not the fact that we wouldn’t lane swap.

Third game! Same Galio from last game, but this time I’m Malphite and I win my lane with Teemo pretty hard, and initiate the hell out of the enemy team constantly (I die, 2 or 3 of them die, rinse repeat). So he doesn’t talk much trash after the game starts.

Then he builds two Warmogs and two Thornmails, and our Amumu builds no AP or MPen, so we don’t have the DPS to do much of anything. We get rolled in one teamfight after failing to push in consecutive aces and then the other team just rolls our mid and wins.

But nasus doesn’t have a snare, he has a slow!

I will stab you in the face. Because I’ve heard that so. many. times.

Also, his snare costs 100 mana, which is A Lot on nasus. If you’re aiming to farm all day you simply cannot afford more than one or two withers during laning phase without it disrupting your farm.

On this note, what’s it like running a melee ad carry + support in bottom lane? I’m thinking about a farmed Nasus here in particular, but what about tryn/yi-types in general?

I forget who I was discussing it with, but I intend to be the Taric in a Taric/Tryndamere lane soon. That sounds exciting.

It could be interesting to run him with Soraka since she can infuse him to restock mana for more withers.

The only AD melee bot I’ve seen run in a “serious” game is Jax. Nasus doesn’t need a support, he needs solo top.

On the other hand, as I said, he was landing maybe one in four Qs, and we started out 1v2 against Udyr as Nasus/Vayne; at that point, the proper thing to do seems, at least to me, to be using wither so I can get a kill (and first blood) rather than simply sitting in the lane (I had Udyr harassed down to 15-20%).

Hyfe’s guide was good and all, but then Rumble came out.

Two good games as Oriana mid. I zoned a not-great Swain well and then held off Annie until Nocturne got involved - we had no jungler to counter that, but we still won that game! They surrendered after I got a triple-kill on their team tower diving our team. That was pretty awesome.

At your normal elo maybe. For me I hardly ever play ranked because the quality of game I get in normals is far, far superior.

Forge trust me, your just wrong.