League of Legends: Official Thread

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2011-09-16T21:15:16.000Z

McKnight:

They should reduce elo loss for players on a team with a leaver, except said leaver who should receive double the penalty. Would be very easy to implement and would go a long way to sorting out the problem. The winning team also doesn’t get any advantage per say, which combined with the leaver double penalty means it wouldn’t be open to abuse (at least, not in a way that I can see but I’m tired).

Someone brought this up on the official forums and one of the Riot staff said it just wasn’t a viable option. The elo loss forgiven stuff they do isn’t set up to be applied retroactively in the way required after the game, and it also mean that people who were going to lose would just get someone to leave before the game so no one else lost any elo. It is very obviously open to easy gaming of the system by groups if you think about it for a few seconds.

Harkonis · 2011-09-16T22:38:58.000Z

It requires someone to take an extra big hit, and the other losers still take a hit. I don’t think it would be gamed very much by anyone bright enough to count.

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2011-09-16T22:49:49.000Z

If you did something like one person took a double elo drop and the other players took half the usual loss, then a team of 5 could take turns leaving when they are losing and all have a net reduction in elo losses. If the leaver took a ten times greater drop to make sure that you couldn’t game it in that way, then a team would have a “take one for the team” account to prevent the rest of them from losing elo. The kind of people who take this game seriously enough to play it 30 hours a week and scream with rage when they lose are exactly the kind of people who would go through the effort to do it.

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-16T22:53:17.000Z

I think nullifying any game where someone never connects during the initial loading screen (as in, before the game proper starts) would be a sizable help against disconnects/leavers. Hell, it’d be around 20% of my losses right now…

MrCoffee · 2011-09-16T23:03:51.000Z

AaronSofaer:

I think nullifying any game where someone never connects during the initial loading screen (as in, before the game proper starts) would be a sizable help against disconnects/leavers. Hell, it’d be around 20% of my losses right now…

The player gets kicked out if he never connected and you get requeued.

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-16T23:32:04.000Z

MrCoffee:

The player gets kicked out if he never connected and you get requeued.

I assure you, I have had games where a player never connected and his character just sat there as we fought 4v5.

Mark_L · 2011-09-16T23:34:26.000Z

gg tonight Pogo and Copet and crew! Hope I didn’t mess up my CVs too badly.

Oh, and the manamune was a misclick.

Pogo · 2011-09-16T23:38:21.000Z

GG man. Yeah that Manamune surprised me heh.

MrCoffee · 2011-09-16T23:50:14.000Z

AaronSofaer:

I assure you, I have had games where a player never connected and his character just sat there as we fought 4v5.

Then he connected at one point and left after champ select (not dodging).

McKnight · 2011-09-17T06:06:55.000Z

Lazy Shiftless Bastard:

If you did something like one person took a double elo drop and the other players took half the usual loss, then a team of 5 could take turns leaving when they are losing and all have a net reduction in elo losses. If the leaver took a ten times greater drop to make sure that you couldn’t game it in that way, then a team would have a “take one for the team” account to prevent the rest of them from losing elo. The kind of people who take this game seriously enough to play it 30 hours a week and scream with rage when they lose are exactly the kind of people who would go through the effort to do it.

I was thinking the biggest group would be 2, given that it was solo queue. Simply don’t apply it to 5 man ranked, but I do see your point :)

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-17T09:14:44.000Z

MrCoffee:

Then he connected at one point and left after champ select (not dodging).

He disconnected during the loading screen (the one where there are all the bars and you finally see your opponent’s summoner spells). He never reconnected. We 4v5’d and lost.

MrCoffee · 2011-09-17T09:16:55.000Z

Exactly what i said then.

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-17T09:19:41.000Z

Sure, but I see no reason why that shouldn’t nullify the game and send you back to the game queue.

SlyFrog · 2011-09-17T09:25:19.000Z

I remember there is a way to see what an opponent’s build was in a game that is several games back.

But I cannot seem to find the option of how to do it now.

rossm · 2011-09-17T10:27:30.000Z

I went 26-0 in a game against beginner bots. I should move on to fighting other players…

MrCoffee · 2011-09-17T10:58:54.000Z

AaronSofaer:

Sure, but I see no reason why that shouldn’t nullify the game and send you back to the game queue.

Because he was connected through the whole drafting and only disconnected when the game was loading, how are they going to know he isn’t going to be connecting again.

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-17T11:12:58.000Z

How are they to know he is? How do they know that people who disconnect after the champ picks but during the swap portion won’t reconnect? The same argument applies.

edit: Ross, you should play against intermediate bots first. ;)

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-17T11:15:11.000Z

So what’s the consensus on best solo top champ pick? Renekton seems pretty beast, but so do Irelia and Jarvan and Jax… though Jax seems more of a noobstomper than a viable ranked champ if I ever manage to pull my ELO above this cesspit.

bluemax · 2011-09-17T11:16:16.000Z

So no ranked Solo Queue any time soon. GG Riot.

SlyFrog · 2011-09-17T11:24:17.000Z

bluemax:

So no ranked Solo Queue any time soon. GG Riot.

Why not anytime soon? Their post just says it will be down for the weekend, no?