League of Legends: Official Thread

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2011-09-22T16:58:26.000Z

Well that sounds like you had a very special person playing Rammus. One brilliant positive for Dominion is that even if your team is terrible and you hate them, the game is over in like 15 minutes. Instead of 15 minutes being barely the start of a long stretch of loathing like in Summoner’s Rift.

chequers · 2011-09-22T17:01:15.000Z

Actually, cho (and roa) have a weakness, they’re both accumulators, and the accumulation time is teamed for longer games.

My rip for best characters is those who do damage into late game with ad abilities. Irelia, Xin, Panth.

Pogo · 2011-09-22T17:20:22.000Z

Yeah I would skip RoA entirely. Turn Catalyst into Odyn’s or just leave it the way it is for the very powerful regeneration properties on level up.

If you want any AP at all you should be rushing Deathcap.

Hugin · 2011-09-22T17:20:35.000Z

chequers:

You need to hop on mumble. We were all having a hoot that game.

I can’t connect to the server. It keeps saying the connection was closed.

McKnight · 2011-09-22T17:52:55.000Z

Mike Cathcart:

McK: Well the Ashe is me and I actually have a pretty big list of champs I wouldn’t mind playing. If you had a few suggestions to replace Ashe with I bet I could find one I like.

I mean Ashe is ok, I built the team around arrow initiation. You basically wait to get an easy pick with Ashe/WW and then fight the 4v5 that ensues. It’s more the Alistar I had a problem with, since he is pretty useless in a lane with Ashe (but not useless all together, so you should have no problems running it until you get up against serious opponents, just remind him to play as your defense as opposed to being aggresive himself, he’s basically your blocker for the whole game, to half-assly coin an American Football term). I think you would have a problem against Taric/Cait though, which is extremely common at the moment, unless your Ali is seriously on the ball.

If you want a better bot lane, go Urgot/Vayne/Caitlyn in that order. Although keep in mind if you do go Urgot you will crush your lane but your team will lack damage late, so be sure to cement an advantage early (as both your jungle and your top are tanky DPS). Usually crushing bot is enough though, and that’s easy to do with Urogt, as it gives you complete Dragon control.

skyride:

Since person 5 prefers Udyr, it’s best to stick with it. Which makes Amumu a lock for tank. You’ve got lots of AP carries left and not much AD ranged. I’m assuming Ashe listed as third is not really a preferred champ to play. Maybe go Brand, Ryze/Swain and AD Katarina.

So you have Udyr, Amumu, Brand, Ryze, Kat. 4 stuns and plenty of AoE hurt.

Dear god, that sounds fucking awful. I mean how the fuck are you planning on laning that team? Because whatever you send bot is going to get absolutely crushed, and Kat’s going to be useless against 90% of the teams you play against (she’s a counter pick, see RS vs CLG for an example if you are still confused).

idrisz:

WW is only good in lane vs other tanky dps like Irelia, vs long range harasser such as cait or casseiopedia there really isn’t much you can do other than buy MR/armor and buy pots.

Yea I mean I see what you are saying early game, but honestly if you are top then you are fine. Cass might cause problems but the likes of Caitlyn, etc certainly don’t. WW would devour Caitlyn top, np. I think Cass is one of the few champions I’ve never managed to outlane as WW (that I can think of, there’s one or two more) but a) she’s ridic in lane, that’s the reason you pick her and b) after about lvl 3 or so things get a lot easier, no matter who you are against. WW basically becomes un-killable after 7/9 and your first buy.

Falcon554 · 2011-09-22T17:56:03.000Z

bluemax:

Disagree with the last part. My first and so far only game 3 of us told our team at champ select it was our first time. We get in game and a Rammus player on our team starts giving out orders. And when 3 of us don’t immediately go for the top most point he starts raging at us.

Same thing happen to me tonight, all the guy did was cry all game long. Scream like a bitch lol

Falcon554 · 2011-09-22T17:58:53.000Z

Lazy Shiftless Bastard:

Well that sounds like you had a very special person playing Rammus. One brilliant positive for Dominion is that even if your team is terrible and you hate them, the game is over in like 15 minutes. Instead of 15 minutes being barely the start of a long stretch of loathing like in Summoner’s Rift.

But 15 mins of no fun is still no fun. If the map was bigger maybe I would like it a bit more. Again I know what they were going for but for me they failed horribly. 15 min of my life ill never get back lol

forgeforsaken · 2011-09-22T18:00:40.000Z

McKnight:

Dear god, that sounds fucking awful. I mean how the fuck are you planning on laning that team? Because whatever you send bot is going to get absolutely crushed, and Kat’s going to be useless against 90% of the teams you play against (she’s a counter pick, see RS vs CLG for an example if you are still confused).

I seriously doubt that. Look, he’s talking about a group of players that aren’t even level 30 yet, so while what you say may hold somewhat true against a team that is playing the metta of the moment, how many teams are they really going to be facing like that and how many of those are going to be competent at it?

McKnight · 2011-09-22T18:07:47.000Z

forgeforsaken:

I seriously doubt that. Look, he’s talking about a group of players that aren’t even level 30 yet, so while what you say may hold somewhat true against a team that is playing the metta of the moment, how many teams are they really going to be facing like that and how many of those are going to be competent at it?

I didn’t know that he was talking about a group of people under 30. I also didn’t know that “but our enemies will be bad” was suddenly an excuse to be bad aswell?

If you are specifically talking about Kat, fucking everyone and their mother plays champs with CC these days (especially low level). The game I said to check out was one where funnily enough they all had snares/roots/unreliable CC and so RS picked up Kat and stomped, displaying how good she is as a counter pick based on what kind of CC the enemy is packing.

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-22T18:44:12.000Z

I still fail to see what’s wrong with my suggestion of a team. If you’re feeling the lack of initiation, pick up Wukong for solo top and follow up Ashe’s arrow with his ult?

McKnight · 2011-09-22T18:47:36.000Z

I never said anything about yours ;)

But Wu Kong gets beaten by a lot of the stuff going top right now because he has no sustain. I haven’t seen a lot of him played myself tbh though so I don’t wanna make a clutch judgement on him. He hasn’t exactly impressed me though.

AaronSofaer · 2011-09-22T18:55:13.000Z

Wukong as a solo top seems to work fine. A lot of the teams don’t even have junglers, so the lane will be at his tower 24/7.

idrisz · 2011-09-22T19:00:00.000Z

Morgana ftw, go morgana top, you get initiation(assuming you good with skill shots), farming skill, excellent aoe, and very tanky…

McKnight · 2011-09-22T19:35:33.000Z

She wasn’t an option, and is better mid (although as you said she can top no problem).

Jakub · 2011-09-22T20:37:25.000Z

TY all for the info.

Calistas · 2011-09-22T22:39:45.000Z

Where does Jax fit in the meta? Solo top? Mid counter-pick? Do you build like Irelia (TF and tank) or all damage, or depending? Curious on thoughts about him.

And I really should consider trying Morgana. I have yet to find a solo mid dood I am truly happy with.

Nathan_Phoenix · 2011-09-22T22:40:28.000Z

Regarding Dominion champ balance from earlier, I think Jax is particularly strong because the engagements are smaller and thus tend to lack enough hard CC to shut Jax down. He does also bypass the weaker part of his game and once he’s got a gunblade and another item or two he can really steamroll.

Compare to Tryndamere - he is another very strong late game champ, but due to the faster pace of the game and frequency of engagements, he doesn’t actually have his ult up every single fight like he does on SR, so you can actually sometimes kill the bastard before he trololos you and kills you and dances away.

Jax relies more of the passive aspect of his ult to wreck your face and the magic resist buff is just gravy, so he’s not as cooldown dependent. Physical damage has been much more common than magic damage in the ~25 games of Dominion I’ve played so far as well, which plays into his enhanced dodge and stun capabilities.

chequers · 2011-09-22T22:52:46.000Z

So is dominions disabled again now? This sucks. I got one game in before work and now want to play it even more!

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2011-09-22T23:03:36.000Z

Yes, it’s been shut off again.

Hanacker · 2011-09-22T23:28:40.000Z

Ah, that’s probably why I was doing well with Udyr and Akali on Dominion - no big cooldowns to worry about means you’re always at 100% efficiency. Also that they both do well in smaller engagements.

I wonder if anyone pays attention to quests. First I’d have to figure out which one the Drill is, etc.