League of Legends: Official Thread

espressojim · 2011-10-09T09:30:51.000Z

McKnight:

Go Deathfire, not Morello’s unless you take ignite on him (not advisable tbh, tp or Ghost or even Exhuast would be better) as you need the burst damage mid-game.

Shouldn’t he never be in range of DFG? It’s kinda like taking it on lux - if she’s that close, she’s doing it wrong.

Calistas · 2011-10-09T11:58:18.000Z

DFG on Xerath? The Irish are whack!

Pogo · 2011-10-09T12:05:14.000Z

Look, the concept is a little broken. A nuker anchoring himself into the ground needs to be able to kill someone that’s coming toward him, or he’s useless.

Seems pretty obvious that his strength is in pokes, but it’s sort of debatable whether or not he’s that strong at it compared to any other AP carry.

At least his stun is semi reliable.

Falcon554 · 2011-10-09T12:43:55.000Z

Pogo:

Look, the concept is a little broken. A nuker anchoring himself into the ground needs to be able to kill someone that’s coming toward him, or he’s useless.

Seems pretty obvious that his strength is in pokes, but it’s sort of debatable whether or not he’s that strong at it compared to any other AP carry.

At least his stun is semi reliable.

I got him, but man im just no good with him at all, must not be my style.

McKnight · 2011-10-09T13:38:17.000Z

Calistas:

DFG on Xerath? The Irish are whack!

You need to be able to kill something if they are near you, because by definition you are immobile. Otherwise the bruiser that’s going to jump on your face isn’t going to give a fuck. And you don’t have the burst to do so without Ignite or Deathfire.

Plus Deathfire is an amazing item.

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2011-10-09T13:54:06.000Z

If you somehow need a Deathfire on Xerath you’re doing it wrong. Also, it is not an amazing item stats-wise.

If you’ve gone into siege mode and used your stun on someone else and have the time to tell a bruiser is about to jump on you (which would be required to stand there waiting to use Deathfire), the correct option is push W to come out of siege mode and get a 35% speed boost to run away until your coolddowns are done.

McKnight · 2011-10-09T13:54:48.000Z

It’s the same range as your stun out of Siege mode.

Pogo · 2011-10-09T14:13:19.000Z

Getting hit by 3 of his ults does hurt like hell though.

Walter_Yarbrough · 2011-10-10T05:02:46.000Z

As powerful as Heimer seems to be on Dominion, I see Xeraph and his pokiness as a good counter to Heimer.

I’ve been playing a decent bit of Heimer solo bottom, and Xeraph (or another Heimer) is really the only trouble I have down there.

Sir_Digby · 2011-10-10T06:40:43.000Z

Walter Yarbrough:

As powerful as Heimer seems to be on Dominion, I see Xeraph and his pokiness as a good counter to Heimer.

I’ve been playing a decent bit of Heimer solo bottom, and Xeraph (or another Heimer) is really the only trouble I have down there.

How are you gearing him? I’ve only played Heimer on Dominion two times and it seems everyone else (namely physical carries) scales so much better that it becomes pointless.

espressojim · 2011-10-10T07:17:08.000Z

Sir Digby:

How are you gearing him? I’ve only played Heimer on Dominion two times and it seems everyone else (namely physical carries) scales so much better that it becomes pointless.

Heimer is really amazing early game (push push push), but falls off late game. I inevitably pick kassadin or vayne if I see heimer, so I can blow him the fuck up instantly 12-15 minutes in. Yeah, those are nice turrets, but they didn’t do much as I 2 shotted you.

Pogo · 2011-10-10T09:11:57.000Z

You two-shotted a Heimer with Zhonyas and Rylais?

Oh, the Heimer you two-shotted didn’t have either of those? He must have sucked, then.

AaronSofaer · 2011-10-10T09:14:49.000Z

Also, Heimer’s grenade is damn good times for surviving a bit longer.

SlyFrog · 2011-10-10T09:30:01.000Z

ELO mid 800s and still falling. I am teh win.

espressojim · 2011-10-10T10:28:26.000Z

Pogo:

You two-shotted a Heimer with Zhonyas and Rylais?

Oh, the Heimer you two-shotted didn’t have either of those? He must have sucked, then.

You can use items when you’re silenced? This must be new to this patch.

AaronSofaer · 2011-10-10T10:29:28.000Z

Vayne doesn’t silence, she stuns! Jeeze, jim, you should know better than that.

;)

Pogo · 2011-10-10T10:31:26.000Z

Kassadin has an extremely easy counter… don’t be a glass cannon AP if you’re in a game against him. He doesn’t do shit after ulting in and blowing his load.

Dominion, Heimer at a turret, there should be no reason that Kassadin can come in and kill him for free in an otherwise even game match.

Westy · 2011-10-10T10:41:08.000Z

I think Kassadin is one of the most team-dependent champs in the game and I would never play him with pubbies.

bluemax · 2011-10-10T11:29:48.000Z

Pogo:

Warmogs is stupid OP in Dominion. It really, really needs to be removed or replaced.

And unfortunately, I’m gonna have to throw my build under a bus and say Catalyst is the 2nd most OP item in Dominion right now.

Heh, I was watching a stream when Dominion first came out and all these high Elo dudes queued up together as a 5 man, and the ENTIRE other team started with Catalysts and just rolled them for awhile. It was pretty funny.

Pogo · 2011-10-10T11:52:36.000Z

It’s kind of ridiculous. You start at level 3 and you teamfight until level 4 or 5… at level 6 you’re either still trying to harass the tower and waiting for your dead allies to make it back, or you’re defending.

Either way, you get 500 - 750 hit points back during that time. You don’t have boots, but you don’t need the boots as long as you can get to the turret before it’s claimed.