I’m pretty sure everyone’s else point is that the buffs champions have gotten do not coincide with everyone suddenly loving them or calling them OP. They get their buffs and everyone still calls them terrible for months before suddenly someone does something that works and now they are so ridiculously overpowered Riot you need to nerf them now!
I think one good example would be Jax. For like a year everyone complains about his lack of a use and real problems in teamfights and says how terrible he is. Then someone buys 30 attack damage runes and now at level 3 he is super OP in lane, and without being buffed at all for months of being bottom tier he starts getting nerfed.
Edit: That is awesome Pogo!
Remember, boys and girls, the guy with the non-cookie-cutter build is always the one who lost you the game.
Even if he is 20-13-12 with the most damage dealt.
Fuck, I even went half of endgame randomly killing their Ashe or Talon (as Vayne). And then we got caught 4v5 and lost 4 Flashes and 2 players because people were busy typing, bitching about wards…
Don’t look at damage dealt values much, most of it is from damage done to minions
Pogo
5646
Finishing off that Zeal before getting the Impaler probably would have been better.
I like the Impaler, though; when I’m against three physical DPS (Morgana wasn’t doing much of anything compared to Talon + Ashe + Tryndamere) the armor helps, and the bonus AD and crit is nice.
Given that I was going Atmas, should I have gone Triforce or PDancer for the upgraded Zeal slot?
Pogo
5648
Nah, fuck Tri-force. It’s not something you rush on Vayne, she gets too much benefit from AD and crit.
And don’t take advice from Therlun, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about with Vayne.
Well, I’m not exactly rushing it, to get it after like iedge + warmogs + a negatron… and TF gives more AD than pdancer, plus Vayne spams the fuck out of Q…
I don’t really have a build per se. I generally go boots 1, iedge (getting the BF Sword first), upgrade boots and get a zeal, then I’m often sort of at a loss where to go from there.
That game, we had nothing in the way of peeling and I was getting focused constantly, so I just made a warmogs, banshees veil, and atmas. Then the game ended when I was about 400g from upgrading the Zeal into a Trinity Force.
Next time get a QSS and a PD and just get a red buff from your jungler, you’ll actually finish it aswell.
BV is a pretty overpriced item right now for what it gives you, it’s only good in very particular circumstances (I mean your game could have been one of them, but I’m trying to make a general point here). Also, again general advice, as an AD carry your team can’t afford you buying more then one Defensive item :)
Well, I did want some MR (because of Morgana) and the veil thing did save my ass against Ashe and Morgana and Talon when I would wind up 1v1’ing them, but I didn’t think of getting a QSS.
Triforce isn’t bad on Vayne. I remember idrisz got it every game back when he still played LoL and she was his flavor of the month. I believe part of the reasoning is that at max level her Q is on a 2 second cooldown, which incidentally is Sheen’s cooldown, and all Vayne does to fight someone is push QQQQQQQ. If it shows up before they die the slow makes her target’s life even more miserable.
Pogo
5656
Fun fact:
Base movement of Vayne: 305
Boots 1 = 305+50 = 355
Boots 1 + Zeal = 355 + (0.08*355) = 383
Boots 2 without Zeal = 305+70 = 375
Always get Zeal before Boots 2 on any crit/AS champion.
Unless I’m at base and heading out, and can afford boots 2 but not Zeal? :)
Pogo
5658
You buy a couple pots and a ward and go farm some more.
You do NOT have to buy anything on your way back on a character that needs Zeal+BF Sword to be useful midgame, in most circumstances when you’re not getting your ass completely handed to you, of course.
Or buy another Doran’s Blade which will help you farm under your tower some more, allowing you to only have to attack a caster creep once after the tower shoots it in order to get the CS.
Oh, that’s right I almost always get a second doran’s with my boots1.
bluemax
5660
75 team assists to 11 team assists. For once I was on that team that just roamed around and punished the other team, and it felt gooooood.
