Everyone else was not really what I would call top tier qt3 players⌠(drunk people, sub level-30, casual players, etc). Lazy, however, has no excuse.
What just happened? I vaguely remember a Blitzcrank and a Poppy and lots of dying.
maxle
6345
I was the best Anivia ever, but the rest of you were UNBELIEVABLY HEAVY OH MY GODL2PFAILSAUCENOOB
copet
6346
Ashe and Caitlin are the 2 best AD carries right now (besides Graves, who is always banned). Vayne is good but her range makes her difficult to play.
Nothing wrong with having mains. Sure, 1 main isnât the best since you are screwed if they are banned. I do have a tier I go down if I have first pick, though, but it changes depending on what the other team picks or what is banned.
1st Morgana
2nd Swain or Annie (depending on the other AP carryâs harass/range + how many squishies are on their team)
If I donât get one of those, I end up going:
3rd Caitlin
4th Lee Sin
5th Blitzcrank
Caitlin is probably my strongest, since I still am 5-1 with her, but it is easier to carry with mid solo so I usually go that way.
My bans are always:
Graves
Kassadin
Pogo
6347
I put Brand/Annie above Morgana. I love playing Morg but sheâs so useless for such a long time between roots. Any AP carry is great at punishing people who are chasing your team, or punishing people out of position, but Morg feels like she takes too god damn long to do it. I feel like a very skilled Lux can do long range root and AoE damage better, with a finisher that doesnât actually require the rest of your team to have done well before you fire it off, if that makes any sense.
But of course, thereâs nothing like Black Shield, itâs too unique and useful a skill to bring to the table. It makes people blow abilities in the same way they have to do something about Bansheeâs Veil, but they gotta do it every 10 seconds.
Youâre forgetting KogâMaw Copet.
Pogo, have you realized that all your Morgana hate might just be because you arenât very good with her? ;)
20/0/14 with attack speed janna in dominions. Went Catalyst->Odinâs, Phantom Dancer, Boots of Swiftness, Witâs End, and Kitaeâs Bloodrazor. Was melting people at the end. I think first 0 death game in Dominions I ever had. Will have to try that again.
Pogo
6350
Uhhh, no? I believe you have me confused with someone else.
Or do you still believe I should have shit on AP Janna in mid-lane in a game you werenât in?
McKnight
6351
I just know the feeling because itâs how I felt about Morg for a long while :)
No, Iâm pretty sure you would have always lost the lane, youâve made that quite clear which is why I never bothered to respond to it.
copet
6352
You are right, I did forget him :P He is easily as good as Cait and Ashe. Getting an early Wriggleâs with him helps so much when taking down dragon or sustaining in lane.
Pogo
6353
Ahhh yes, I would have always lost the lane, regardless of the fact that there was no pressure on top lane, and I had to respond to ganks while getting none, even after I forced a flash from her.
You donât know shit. You go on acting like a snide little bitch whenever it suits you.
Well obviously, it wouldnât be nearly as fun if it didnât suit me.
And then release a sex tape - your reality TV star status is guaranteed!
Anyway, I misspoke about taking Temo as an AD - I meant as a right-click hero :)
So how do you built Cait? For both games I went boots + pots -> 2x doran -> zerker greaves -> BF sword -> BT -> ???
But thatâs true with Ashe and Cait too, isnât it (that Wriggles rules)? I keep meaning to try doing a Wriggles start on AD carries but never do. It almost feels like it would be unfair on Graves.
I only ask because I Was wondering if you felt there was something in particular of Kog that synergized well with Wriggles.
SlyFrog
6359
A good start - most common thought Iâve seen is that you start boots + pots or dorans. Everything you wrote up to BT is good, but we recently had a discussion here where the consensus seemed to be she desperately needs an IE before BT. BT is apparently an option, Iâve seen decent players use a PD on her as well.
Last Whisper isnât bad toward the end (but shouldnât come before IE and something further like PD or BT).
Hugin
6360
Iâm fairly limited by the characters I own right now. And the dropoff in usefulness between Caitlin (or relatively similar ranged characters like Tristana or Kog Maw) and anything at all melee is so huge itâs not even worth investigating. Iâd be going from ânot very usefulâ to âActively stabbing my own team in the back.â
Iâm trying, slowly to get decent with Poppy, and maybe Sona once I buy her.
In the meantime, my post was basically a joke. Iâm, like level 21, 22, and never play draft pick matches.