I’m assuming it involves some combination of Ashe/Shen/Pantheon/Twisted Fate/Nocturne, all of which are easier to use properly from a long distance than Ashe arrow.

The weird thing that stands out to me: they gave the scaling AP offensive mastery a very slight buff (18 ap at 18 instead of 11) and moved it way up the tree. Wtf?

I want a refund for all those IP I spent on Dodge Runes >:|

At some point they have to rework Jax don’t they? Who else has dodge? Sivir and Udyr have it as part of their passives, is that it?

Nidalee in cougar mode and that’s i think.

From the wiki:

Champion abilities

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[li] Jax’s Counter Strike increases his dodge chance by 10/12/14/16/18%.[/li][li] Sivir’s Fleet of Foot increases her dodge chance by 10/15/20/25% while moving.[/li][li] Udyr’s Monkey’s Agility increases his dodge chance by 3% for 5 seconds upon switches stances (stackable up to 3 times).[/li][/ul]

Isn’t Jax the only one who has something special that triggers on dodge though? I don’t think dodge in and of itself is really a problem. I do think having him trigger his stun off of dodge increases the random feel of it though.

It’s not really that random, which is why it’s such a retarded ability because it’s pretty much guaranteed but he’s otherwise balanced on some assumption that it’s random. It’s stupid.

Jax’s Counterstrike stun is only guaranteed if he’s been fighting an autoattack champ long enough to already trigger it. If they don’t run away then he’ll usually dodge again before it comes off cooldown, but that means they are either retarded or everyone already knows who’s going to win and there’s no escaping. What makes it stupid and crappy is that if the enemy team isn’t retarded and nuke him instead of autoattacking, he doesn’t have a stun at all. Also now that they’ve removed dodge from everything but Ninja Tabi, Jax can only get to 28% dodge before runes. If he gets harassed a bit a Tryndamere can still kill him with a critical hit or two before he has his stun.

I think at this point pretty much everyone on their forums has suggested to Riot to just give him the goddamn stun with a huge cooldown and have the cooldown reduced either any time he dodges or when he gets hit if you remove dodge.

The other team I was top against Rumble, with TF mid and Nocturne jungling. There is nothing you can do to get away from them when Rumble tanks tower as Noc and TF TP on to you. They do it, TF uses teleport to get back to lane, and I wait to respawn. That shit is lame.

No, you’re screwed if there are minions around too even if you don’t auto him. If he attacks you with your minions nearby they will attack him and proc his dodge. So in lane or even in Dominion at a capture point, he can get the stun off even if all you do is use skills.

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to make them read the lamentation of really terrible LoL slash fanfict.

That game was hilarious. Teemo’s global taunt is kind of painful when you get focused, though. And that Udyr was freakishly unkillable until the very end.

Well that’s a bit like attacking Morde before his nerf in a creep wave. It is a terrible idea that is compounded by the terrible idea of trying to solo Jax. It doesn’t change the fact that he doesn’t have a stun until something else gives it to him, which is why his stun is unreliable and sucks in teamfights and skirmishes. His entire kit and concept is to murder people one on one though, so you don’t fight him without a huge advantage or other people to help nuke him.

I will miss the Nimbleness mastery and dodge in general. I’m not sure how they’re going to replace it on Jax. You can just sort of wave it away replacing Udyr and Sivir’s passives since you barely notice those in game, but they’d have to replace it on Counterstrike with some sort of incredible passive armor buff on his E to make up for the damage mitigation it provides. Or totally remake Jax.

Holy shit I thought Lazy’s Teemo build he talked about earlier was a troll build, I didn’t think he actually used it in games.

Let me tell you the story of an enemy team that ran into a mushroom and took 1000 damage.

You mean the team that didn’t press TAB to see that you were building a Deathcap, and then didn’t buy magic resist?

that’s a bit like saying it’s silly to buy a IE because they could build a thornmail. everything has a counter, doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.

Well looks like they are coming in this patch.

Warmog’s is no longer in Dominion, and Priscilla is no longer in the game.