League of Legends

idrisz · 2011-01-04T13:34:50.000Z

you ignore the alistair and just kill rest of their team.

alistair barely does any damage other than running around doing knock up.

bluemax · 2011-01-04T13:50:02.000Z

idrisz:

you ignore the alistair and just kill rest of their team.

alistair barely does any damage other than running around doing knock up.

Trinity force/manamune Alistair can be pretty damage heavy.

Anti-Bunny · 2011-01-04T14:46:42.000Z

Lazy Shiftless Bastard:

While I feel your pain on terrible junglers, if everyone else is doing ok you might almost want to leave them in the jungle and pretend it’s a 4v5 so they don’t start feeding in a lane.

This… you’re better off letting the Jungler try and farm up away from the other team. If they farm they’ll be able to contribute. If they try and fight in the lane after already being behind, they’ll just feed. This is kind of like why you can’t swap from a 2v2 lane to mid and not just towerhug for dear life.

Lazy Shiftless Bastard:

Edit: Regarding the patch notes I am sad they changed the name of the new item from Bansky’s to Rabadon’s. Banksy just seems so much more LoLworthy.

I thought Banksy was stupid, because it made me think of the artist.

JoshV · 2011-01-04T16:57:25.000Z

Anti-Bunny:

This… you’re better off letting the Jungler try and farm up away from the other team. If they farm they’ll be able to contribute. If they try and fight in the lane after already being behind, they’ll just feed. This is kind of like why you can’t swap from a 2v2 lane to mid and not just towerhug for dear life.

I thought Banksy was stupid, because it made me think of the artist.

Well, the problem is that they’d stumble across our weak jungler on his own fighting creeps and get easy kills, (I think at one point he was 0/5/0). I figure he’d be better off laning with someone else, or laning a lane they already pressed and is way down in our own territory (we lost 2 towers in it, so its fairly far back)

But your right, a noob in a lane that is lower level always tend to forget they are 5 levels behind and rush in like an idiot.

McKnight · 2011-01-04T19:14:17.000Z

bluemax:

Trinity force/manamune Alistair can be pretty damage heavy.

For an Alistar maybe…

The Trist in the back is still going to out DPS an Alistar in her sleep… without pressing any buttons… Lower levels… With less items…

It actually hurts me when people try and point out that tanks can do damage.

bluemax · 2011-01-04T19:22:31.000Z

McKnight:

For an Alistar maybe…

The Trist in the back is still going to out DPS an Alistar in her sleep… without pressing any buttons… Lower levels… With less items…

It actually hurts me when people try and point out that tanks can do damage.

Sure but the Alistair has more survivability and CC than the Trist.

Either way I wasn’t saying Alistair could be a carry or out DPS top carries, but there are viable damage builds for him, same with Blitzcrank or Gragas, etc.

McKnight · 2011-01-04T19:27:17.000Z

bluemax:

Sure but the Alistair has more survivability and CC than the Trist.

Either way I wasn’t saying Alistair could be a carry or out DPS top carries, but there are viable damage builds for him, same with Blitzcrank or Gragas, etc.

Oh I know, there always are. They are known under other names like “sub-optimal” builds ;)

Joe_M · 2011-01-04T20:03:54.000Z

You rarely need optimal builds to kill anyone in this game unless you’re playing at 1800+ Elo, and even then I’ve seen top players trollolol to victory.

McKnight · 2011-01-04T20:13:12.000Z

The point isn’t to kill people, anyone can do that.

The point is to win.

idrisz · 2011-01-04T20:35:22.000Z

also reason to have more than 1 squishy carries on a team, it’s no good when you are the only viable carry, basically any 5vs5 games where chiffy is on one team, we kill chiffy, we win.

Hanacker · 2011-01-04T22:37:37.000Z

I thought the reduction of the range you get xp would be huge but I haven’t really noticed it yet.

Anti-Bunny · 2011-01-04T22:41:24.000Z

They made dragon harder to kill and give less gold as reward (210). I haven’t noticed the jungle more difficult, otherwise.

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2011-01-04T23:04:23.000Z

I think they only reduced the range that neutral monsters give xp, not minion waves. Also, it was funny seeing Bunny try to take the new dragon and get owned SO HARD.

One funny thing that I didn’t notice until now is that they changed Wit’s End so that it ALWAYS does an extra 42 magic damage per attack, even to manaless champions and creeps. It’s like a mini Bloodrazor that incidentally drains mana.

talsworthy · 2011-01-04T23:12:30.000Z

McKnight:

For an Alistar maybe…

The Trist in the back is still going to out DPS an Alistar in her sleep… without pressing any buttons… Lower levels… With less items…

It actually hurts me when people try and point out that tanks can do damage.

Lets put it like this when we started the game we were laughing about smite on Alistair…best Alistair i’ve seen tbh

http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/EU68658505

** Any comments about his damage dealt now - more than the Ashe on there team?
*** Wow that was a bad game for us, struggled for Gold the whole game which didn’t help at all

Then last game of the night

http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/EU68960917

I think we held the nexus for 10 minutes without it’s towers and 2 inhibs down, noone posted a single surrender in the game and wow it was real attrition to keep the minions off but fun nonetheless.

Need one of us to play Blitz more - he maybe weak but wow he is so much fun :)

copet · 2011-01-04T23:13:58.000Z

Come play on US and I’ll play Blitz with you :P I have 5000 IP on Euro right now, maybe I should save for him there, too.

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2011-01-04T23:17:00.000Z

Why won’t you play with any of the rest of us on the US, copet? :(

talsworthy · 2011-01-04T23:23:06.000Z

copet:

Come play on US and I’ll play Blitz with you :P I have 5000 IP on Euro right now, maybe I should save for him there, too.

:) I have a level 16 char on US and my game patched up so it’s all possible - I do tend to check mumble when i’m going to play and EU mumble is light but you guys use it differently :(

But yes get Blitz now :)

Hanacker · 2011-01-04T23:29:29.000Z

Lazy Shiftless Bastard:

I think they only reduced the range that neutral monsters give xp, not minion waves. Also, it was funny seeing Bunny try to take the new dragon and get owned SO HARD.

Oh, I guess monsters and minions are different. I think this was just to prevent mid from stealing wraith experience.

Ex-S_Woo · 2011-01-05T00:21:38.000Z

What time do you guys usually play? I’m still playing LoL quite a bit but at pretty odd hours due to the time zone difference…it’ll be great to join in on some group games though, despite the problems I have w/ mumble.

talsworthy · 2011-01-05T02:24:26.000Z

Ex-S Woo:

What time do you guys usually play? I’m still playing LoL quite a bit but at pretty odd hours due to the time zone difference…it’ll be great to join in on some group games though, despite the problems I have w/ mumble.

Copet I believe is also based in Japan and plays US and EU. Could be worth you getting an EU account as well if you haven’t. US I can’t speak for but EU plays usually 6pm London Time to Midnight with Peak time between 8pm - 11pm. Worth looking at the mumble problems as in EU we tend to organise the games through mumble.