League of Legends

[Anti-Bunny]

I play from two systems - one at home, and a laptop while away. Could that be the cause of the trouble?

Yep. I would suggest making two user names. Or just copy the SSL cert over.

You can export the current certificate in Certificate Management under Configure. You can also save it as a backup or whatever.

[l0lh3h3]

I would join you, as it’s really tempting, but there are obvious reasons I won’t. Why aren’t you on Mumble any more? Even the odd occasion I’m on people noted that you’re missing.

I play almost exclusively ARAM, again for obvious reasons. I seem to get either Taric or Kayle more often than I would expect. Bit weird. I also reckon Kayle’s a completely different character in ARAM. In normal games she’s a ranged carry, in ARAM she’s better as a support.

Kayle is ridiculous in ARAM. It’s actually quite scary.

[Calistas]

Ultra! Sounds like you have found a new niche :)

[MrCoffee]

Been playing Taric all day, read all the guides etc. Started out trying to follow the basic Merc treds, chalice, aegis route, basically cool down reduction, resists, and armor. Meh… bad heal past lane phase, and an ult that will OOM you in about 5 seconds.

So I started really taking a look at his abilities, and trying some different builds. Everything about this character seems to scream attack speed and damage to me. I played a few games where I built items that gave both ability power and attack speed, i.e. nashors, stinger, malady. Worked really well.

His Q (heal) get’s a 2 second CD reduction for every hit he does, and there is no time between when that triggers. I.E., if you attack fast enough, that heal is just up all the time. Couple this with his passive (7.5% of his damage per hit mana back) and you can literally stand there and chain heal all day long and never even dent your mana.

Now the real kicker was his Ult. There seems to be wide spread complaint about running out of mana too fast, and how semi useless his ult is. I couldn’t disagree more. If you can actually get your attack speed up with a nashors and a malady, you can leave your ULT on full time as long as you’re attacking something, and barely lose mana…it’s fairly silly.

What I’m trying to come up with, is a good mix between the usual build him like a tanky support kind of character, and getting some attack speed on him.

This toon really strikes me as a classic Paladin. As long as you’re hitting something, you can pretty much keep all your abilities up full time. Seems to me like building him as a tanky support with no damage and attack speed is a huge mistake.

Impart your various wisdom upon me why this is not the case.

I played a bit of Taric a while back and generally just build for AP unless our team didn’t have any other tank and the heals were pretty great even outside laning phase.

I have seen some people that build him for pure AD and it does some nice damage but nothing great, never tried it myself.

[Ultrazen]

yah it’s not really attack damage I found to be useful, as he’s slow as nails attack speed wise. But if you get your attack speed up by say having one nashors and one malady, also getting the AP from those, it’s surprisingly good.

He’s tough to build fast enough to make it work is the problem I’ve been having. If you get him built with an Aegis, nashors, and malady, he’s pretty much unkillable as you can leave your ULT up as long as you’re hitting something.

All in all a fun toon, reminds me of my wow healbot palie which I loved.

[Calistas]

Speedy boots might help keep you in close, to keep hitting, but you do have that damn stun too. It sounds like you have found a solid build that works for you - now you just need to fuel it. Are you sure Aegis is best? Perhaps sunfire for the health bump and speedier farming, fueling other items? I dunno, certainly no expert here.

[Ultrazen]

I like the aegis for the team buff, as you are always at the center of team fights. In games I’ve had it, it’s felt like it actually did make a difference but there may be much better items. I’d love some ideas on that front.

I’d love to have the farm to end up with nashors, aegis, sun cape, merc treads, and starks ;P

I do actually love sun cape on him when I can get one built, as it makes farming stupid fast combined with his shield pop. Hmm, I wonder if you could make a jungler out of him lol.

[JoshV]

ugh, i hate the word toon.

PS. Wow Taric is great with nashor’s. Just tried it after reading this thread.

[Calistas]

Is it not widely suggested? It seems ideal for taric

[bluemax]

Is it not widely suggested? It seems ideal for taric

It’s a recommended item on him by Riot, shrug.

I usually build him support, Soul Shroud and Shurelya’s and maybe Aegis if the game goes long enough.

[Ultrazen]

It’s a really tricky juggling act as far as what you spec when, and trying to get some farm going. If you are going to try and build into a lot of items, you need to pump his shield to max as early as possible, and get a sun fire, but that leaves your heals/magic resist etc lacking.

If ever there was a character that needed the word toon to describe it, it’s taric.

But yah, nashors is awesome. If you can get the balance right for the game you’re playing, you can really turn into a heal spammer with some attack speed, it’s pretty much always up if you have attack speed.

[l0lh3h3]

This is what happens when Kassadin isn’t banned. ;)

[McKnight]

Yea but you are stupidly good with casters ;)

Also like Kirian already said, I thought you had quit the game altogether? Glad to see my duo queue buddy is back :)

-edit- Also just so everyone knows, my internet is having some serious issues. Losing at minimum 30% of packets and ping, dl speed, etc is just going crazy (as you would expect). Hopefully I’ll get it sorted out today but I doubt it, might be the end of the week before I get on again. It literally took a minute and a half to load that pic up there.

[bluemax]

Nothing like winning in 25 minutes when your team comp is:

Rammus
Eve
Shaco
Sivir
Vlad

The other team was decent comp:

Mundo
Udyr
Ryze
Ashe
Cho

Too much ganking for them.

[l0lh3h3]

Yea but you are stupidly good with casters ;)

Also like Kirian already said, I thought you had quit the game altogether? Glad to see my duo queue buddy is back :)

-edit- Also just so everyone knows, my internet is having some serious issues. Losing at minimum 30% of packets and ping, dl speed, etc is just going crazy (as you would expect). Hopefully I’ll get it sorted out today but I doubt it, might be the end of the week before I get on again. It literally took a minute and a half to load that pic up there.

Yeah I thought so too, I was getting sick of normal games and it slowly turned into me not playing…

I’m back now though, and I’m better than I was before.

[Anti-Bunny]

I’ve got to stop complimenting enemy teams… I tell a team that just failed a surrender vote that they aren’t doing that bad and they could turn it around, and I’m told we’re shit, etc.

Whatever. We won and they were shit. Yet another gank-squad team that turned to rubbish in five-mans.

[talsworthy]

I’ve got to stop complimenting enemy teams… I tell a team that just failed a surrender vote that they aren’t doing that bad and they could turn it around, and I’m told we’re shit, etc.

Whatever. We won and they were shit. Yet another gank-squad team that turned to rubbish in five-mans.

The only time I talk to enemy teams is if they are nice, anything else and you get a tirade of abuse from what must be a bunch of 13’s years olds excited to be playing on mummies PC

Thelun did his usual GLHF yesterday and some twit replies STFU - what is it with some people?

[Kirian]

Kayle is ridiculous in ARAM. It’s actually quite scary.

I tend to play her support because, well, you’ve seen how I play and because most ARAM games there are already two-three carries on my team.

I can see how she’s broken- ridiculous support potential from W/R, ridiculous carry potential from Q/E. It just doesn’t translate as well out of ARAM. Ryze and Sivir are broken in ARAM, and I had a hilarious moment when playing Galio- I got a huge lag spike returning to lane and got over it to find myself way beyond the line of battle, in the middle of their team getting beaten on. Their mistake.

Didn’t get any kills for it.

[idrisz]

you need to stop surrendering bunny.

a losing game is just another opportunity to pull off an awesome win!!!

[Pogo]

I can see how she’s broken- ridiculous support potential from W/R, ridiculous carry potential from Q/E. It just doesn’t translate as well out of ARAM.

Err, I disagree. I usually try to build support (AP focused) at the beginning of a game. The beauty of Kayle is that if you go AP, you get decent AD out of it, and if you go AD, you get decent AP out of it. So really it comes down to what skill you want to max first. If you’re laning with a strong burster, Q/W can be used first for some burst and escape prevention as your W will help your laning partner keep up with someone fleeing.

Basically just get the Blasting Wand ASAP since you want to build a Guinsoo’s regardless, which I usually get to after the Fiendish Codex and Stinger (but before building into Nashor’s). That also depends on if you get Berserker’s .

I’ve shied away from Manamune. It doesn’t take all that long to get to since the Tear starts increasing your mana right away and is pretty cheap, but 've lately considered going into Archangel’s Staff instead of Manamune. Even though AD transfers to AP more than the other way around with Kayle’s passive, AP is also much easier to build up.