bluemax
4081
I prefer either the AP book thingy or Doran’s shield personally.
For items I go Rylai’s to Ionian boots and after that it kind of depends, if I’m struggling then either Spirit Visage or Abysall, if I’m doing pretty well then either Zhonya’s or Abadon.
Warmogs is for noobs.
Thanks for the tips, and FUUUUUuuuuuuuu the server is still down :(
JZigish
4083
Yeah Riot is pretty much fail tonight. It’s been down for like 5 hours by now. Way to go on patch day!
Got in two vlad games where I did quite averagely against average players. Couldn’t seem to really kill anyone or lay down the damage - perhaps I wasn’t being careful about constantly hitting Q. Also, facing Heimer in mid = annoying. Couldn’t work out a way to kill him and couldn’t even push the lane back without seeming to not get good last hits. Grr.
Also got out-laned in bit with chequers as Nas and vs cho and Cait. Annoying. I guess practice is required and trying to learn more about how to “be” in the fight. Oh, I got focused down a fair few times too. :/
l0lh3h3
4085
Thoughts on Renekton?
Doesn’t seem that great to me to be honest, maybe that’s just me and my hatred for melee DPS. :/
I’ve won alot of games today, quite handily. And the common factor between all those wins was none of us were playing the new champion.
Is Lux a really good mid now or am I just a terrible Vlad?
I think he’s got a great skill set but with bad numbers. They also nerfed him post quicklook, which seems like a mistake. Riot seems so paranoid about releasing OP champs that they keep releasing UP champs. Unlike Caitlin I think his actual skills are fine, just that the scaling is terrible.
JoshV
4089
Hasn’t Lux always been a decent mid?
bluemax
4090
She was bad for awhile and got buffed up some. I haven’t really played her outside of ARAM (where she’s awesome) but I’ve seen her perform reasonably well. Skill wise she’s a lot like Morgana.
What about her gave you problems? Her Q should be avoidable if you stay behind minions. And her E shouldn’t really be a hassle on Vlad early game.
Here’s a shocker to many: Vlad is actually pretty weak early. If you’re a decent solo (e.g. Malph, Annie, Sivir, etc.) and start harassing him immediately at level 1 and keep the pressure on, you can force him to pool, flash, etc. and win the lane before he turns into a scary monster mid-late game.
I would tend to agree, as Ashe Vlad is not one of the champs that particularly worries me mid. Now kennen…ho hum :)
I let her hit me with her Q too much and her E seemed like it had a longer range and bigger area than I remember. I could never get in to harass her. My next game I dominated Corki so I don’t think it’s all me.
Pogo
4094
Idrisz and I laned as Malz/Cho versus a Renekton/Cait duo.
They kept the pressure up very early, but couldn’t get a proper gank off without Idrisz letting himself get out of position. At about level 5, after I died due to a Anivia gank, I got myself a doran’s shield and boots to go with my ring, and rank 2 rupture, it was much easier to deal with them, and by the end of the laning phase we were pushing them back and got some kills off. Renekton seems like he needs to be played aggressively, but the player was putting himself out of position trying to pull slick barrel roll moves back and forth to kill creeps. He can’t harass well without exposing himself to the ranged laner.
Late game he didn’t seem all that powerful, but I can see the usefulness of his guerrilla tactics, building up rage until he can get a stun off on a carry and maybe us his Ult+lifestyle for some staying power on that carry. I wouldn’t say Renekton lost them the game though, that distinction goes to their shit Blitz whose last item after Manamune was, no lie, a Sword of the Occult.
idrisz
4095
yeah I didn’t know Renekton can do 2 dash, which their renekton used a bunch, but once he does 2 dash, he is pretty much dead, because I drop silence/pool/dot and ult just owns him.
Pogo
4096
Eh, don’t act like rupture didn’t help save your ass when he double dashed straight to you for a stun.
idrisz
4097
bleh rupture, I saved your ass at lvl 2 with my exhaust, even after they killed you, I finished off their renekton with an awesome silence.
Pogo
4098
Pfft, the turret did most of the work after Renek overextended to kill me.
That reminds me, I’ve got to play Corki some time!
idrisz
4100
there was some pretty awesome one vs one fight between me and their Cait, one where she got me to like 200 health, and tries to finish me off with her ult, I turn around and owned her with my ult before her ult finish channeling.
they were winning in tower, but then we were winning somewhat in team fights, there was a couple fights where we dominated them in the river.